100:1 Mix

For lower mainland BC, the Amsoil rep at the Motorcycle show told me there are two locations he knew for certain carry the Saber 100:1 mix..

Alder Auto Parts, 19414 96 Ave, Surrey, BC (604) 888-3722

and

B and J Auto, 2549 Kingsway Ave, Port Coquitlam, BC (604) 464-6677.
 
i now have 200 miles on my engine so i went with the opti-2. 1.8 in a gallon of gas, i lost 4 miles an hour on my top speed is this normal? I have ran 20 miles on this mix and staying steady top speed of 22(it is a 29" bike and i weigh 240) and sounds like i am not getting full rpm's i know i have to tune carb(it is a speed carb), i just want to make sure this is normal if not i will switch mix i live at sea level in Virginia beach va so what jet does everyone think i should use it is a a stock (except for carb) china girl? and it is really flat here.
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i now have 200 miles on my engine so i went with the opti-2. 1.8 in a gallon of gas, i lost 4 miles an hour on my top speed is this normal? I have ran 20 miles on this mix and staying steady top speed of 22(it is a 29" bike and i weigh 240) and sounds like i am not getting full rpm's i know i have to tune carb(it is a speed carb), i just want to make sure this is normal if not i will switch mix i live at sea level in Virginia beach va so what jet does everyone think i should use it is a a stock (except for carb) china girl? and it is really flat here.
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Read 2doors post above and this should answer your queation, you're likely running rich now, that is likely your problem.

Map
 
I used opti 2 last year, it was alright but Ijust couldn't trust such a small amount of oil. I use klotz r50 at 50:1 in cold weather, I'm gonna switch to 40:1 after I use up the rest of the gas I have now. Opti 2 is ok but it's not for me.
 
I used opti 2 last year, it was alright but Ijust couldn't trust such a small amount of oil. I use klotz r50 at 50:1 in cold weather, I'm gonna switch to 40:1 after I use up the rest of the gas I have now. Opti 2 is ok but it's not for me.

I hears of other that were concerned about running 100:1, but the fact is that with Opti2 the engine is better protected at 100:1 than it is with many other oils at a lot richer oil mix, I been running Opti2 since 2010 and many others on this forum have been running it even longer than I have not to mention the rental companies that have used it for many many years without one single oil related failure, I say run what you want but Opti2 is an excellent oil that can very safely be used at its recommended mix of 100:1.

It has proven itself for many yeara so I run it with confidence and it hasnt let me
Down a single time and all my 2 stroke engines are run on it and they all run great, almost no smoke and they have great power.

Hope you have great results with the Klotz, they make a good product but for me I'll stick with the beat oil I've ever used.

Map
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hey all, I also recently made the switch to opti2 at 400 miles. I'm mixing it 1.1ozs to a gallon of premium. I'm lovin it! My engine runs smother, and quieter at lower RPM's. It revs higher, runs stronger across the power band. There is very little smoke coming out of the tail pipe and it doesn't stink of oil anymore. My exhaust pipe doesn't drip goo, and best of all I picked up a solid 3 mph at the top end... what's not to like!
 
I hears of other that were concerned about running 100:1, but the fact is that with Opti2 the engine is better protected at 100:1 than it is with many other oils at a lot richer oil mix, I been running Opti2 since 2010 and many others on this forum have been running it even longer than I have not to mention the rental companies that have used it for many many years without one single oil related failure, I say run what you want but Opti2 is an excellent oil that can very safely be used at its recommended mix of 100:1.

It has proven itself for many yeara so I run it with confidence and it hasnt let me
Down a single time and all my 2 stroke engines are run on it and they all run great, almost no smoke and they have great power.

Hope you have great results with the Klotz, they make a good product but for me I'll stick with the beat oil I've ever used.

Mapl
.wee.

That's a pretty bold statement. Now I don't doubt that at the same ratio it will lubricate better than other oils, . But I refuse to believe it will lubricate better than other oil running at 40:1 vs opti 100:1, cheap oil maybe, but definitely not the oil I run. Especially without hard physical evidence or test data. Yes opti has been around for a long time, and I'm not a hater. There's just no way that opti 100:1 would outlast a good synthetic at 40:1. Especially if well taken care of. And opti is only for lower hp engines. One more time just for the record. I don't hate opti, and you are a well respected member of this forum, that statement just grinds my gears.
 
Shan (mapbike) has multiple engines with over 1000 miles on them with zero issues. He also lives in the 'heatbelt of Texas' with extreme temps during the summer.....that kinda of use with no problems seems like "hard physical evidence or test data" to me.

Now I don't run Opti-2. I use Echo oil at a 50:1 ratio ---- also with zero issues. I'm not taking sides on this issue, but Shan's facts do support his case.

Best of luck to everyone in whatever you decide to run!
 
As I have said before Im not saying Opti2 is the final word on 2 stroke oil, but the hard facts are that it works and as far as it being made for low power engines.... if that is the case then our china girls fit right just fine, its true that there are some other good oils out there and under really high performance applications I know there are better choices than Opti2, but several of us have proven that the china girl enginea do very good on Opti2 with some benefit over SOME of the other oils, example: low to nearly no smoke, low odor, increased performance ( a few mph increase in top speed ) in some cases, good throttle response, and a less messy engine and exhaust since so little oil is needed, in my opinion when you can have all of this out of an oil and it has proven to give high protection to the internals, its a win win..
And by the way weedwackera and chainsaws are hard working high rpm engines and if rental companies trust it over all others in there rental equipment it isn't snake oil....

When I have taken my engines apart to do mods after running Opti2 at 100:1 the internals are. Overed with oil, what I understand about Opti2 is that it is chemically designed to be drawn to heat and it adheres to the internals, its advantage is not how oily it is its ability to adhere and its film strength under heat and pressure even at a small amout compared to many or most of the other conventional type oils.

I like synthetic oils also and run them in my vehicles and my motorcycles including my Harley, they do a great job and Im not hating on them at all, my entire point is regarding our china girl bike engines, its just a nice thing to me to have my bikes run good and reliable with virtually no smoke, low odor, smooth throttle, good top speed, engines last under even the hard riding I put them through, I have run my bikes wide open throttle in the Texas summer heat for 7-8 milea non stop running over 8000-9000+rpm at speeds up to 45mph and has een 48mph a few times engine still runs good as new and sometimea I ride 50+ mile round trips and almost the entire ride will be at wide open throttle or close to it.... to me this proves the level of protection Opti2 provides, my personal experience di tates my opinions on this subject, at first I was a little skeptical myself, and I ran Opti2 at around 70:1 but then I took the plunge to 100:1 and have not had a single issue for around three years.

I wish you the best with whatever you use and I dont care what anyone else uses, if it works for you and your happy and confident with it I say " go fur it " for me Opti2 has proven to do exactly what I want and what I need for my engines so I use it and will continue to use it.

Seems this discusion will never end and people will always refuse to accept the years of evidence that proves that Opti2 is an excellent product and does exactly what it claims to do, but thats OK, some people swear Ford makes a horrible vehicle and wont own one, me personally I buy Ford trucks and have had better luck with them, do what you fell good about and enjoy it, thats what I do....

Peace, Map

dnut
 
Opti2 has stabilizer in it also.seems to last a long time after mixed up...
Yep Im sold after tryin it. Still use Lucas in my Harleys and Amsoil in my ole Ford truck :)
100/1 just cant be beat.
Nice to read this thread!
 
I also run Lucas in my Harley, good stuff Maynard.......lol!

And yes that is another benefit of Opti2, I've had gas mix set for a year and a half and it still smelled fresh and ran perfectly.
Map
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I've been mixing my Opti-2 @ the recommended 100:1 ratio. It sure is expensive though. 100 gallons of Opti -2 to a gallon of gas works great for me but I can't afford to do much riding.

Tom
 
I've been mixing my Opti-2 @ the recommended 100:1 ratio. It sure is expensive though. 100 gallons of Opti -2 to a gallon of gas works great for me but I can't afford to do much riding.

Tom

Thats what I run my diesel china girls on Tom..... wow and I thought I was the only one, the gas mileage is incredible but the oil mileage sucks....lol!

I know I know.... just having a little fun too....!

Map
.wee.
 
As I have said before Im not saying Opti2 is the final word on 2 stroke oil, but the hard facts are that it works and as far as it being made for low power engines.... if that is the case then our china girls fit right just fine, its true that there are some other good oils out there and under really high performance applications I know there are better choices than Opti2, but several of us have proven that the china girl enginea do very good on Opti2 with some benefit over SOME of the other oils, example: low to nearly no smoke, low odor, increased performance ( a few mph increase in top speed ) in some cases, good throttle response, and a less messy engine and exhaust since so little oil is needed, in my opinion when you can have all of this out of an oil and it has proven to give high protection to the internals, its a win win..
And by the way weedwackera and chainsaws are hard working high rpm engines and if rental companies trust it over all others in there rental equipment it isn't snake oil....

When I have taken my engines apart to do mods after running Opti2 at 100:1 the internals are. Overed with oil, what I understand about Opti2 is that it is chemically designed to be drawn to heat and it adheres to the internals, its advantage is not how oily it is its ability to adhere and its film strength under heat and pressure even at a small amout compared to many or most of the other conventional type oils.

I like synthetic oils also and run them in my vehicles and my motorcycles including my Harley, they do a great job and Im not hating on them at all, my entire point is regarding our china girl bike engines, its just a nice thing to me to have my bikes run good and reliable with virtually no smoke, low odor, smooth throttle, good top speed, engines last under even the hard riding I put them through, I have run my bikes wide open throttle in the Texas summer heat for 7-8 milea non stop running over 8000-9000+rpm at speeds up to 45mph and has een 48mph a few times engine still runs good as new and sometimea I ride 50+ mile round trips and almost the entire ride will be at wide open throttle or close to it.... to me this proves the level of protection Opti2 provides, my personal experience di tates my opinions on this subject, at first I was a little skeptical myself, and I ran Opti2 at around 70:1 but then I took the plunge to 100:1 and have not had a single issue for around three years.

I wish you the best with whatever you use and I dont care what anyone else uses, if it works for you and your happy and confident with it I say " go fur it " for me Opti2 has proven to do exactly what I want and what I need for my engines so I use it and will continue to use it.

Seems this discusion will never end and people will always refuse to accept the years of evidence that proves that Opti2 is an excellent product and does exactly what it claims to do, but thats OK, some people swear Ford makes a horrible vehicle and wont own one, me personally I buy Ford trucks and have had better luck with them, do what you fell good about and enjoy it, thats what I do....

Peace, Map

dnut

That's something I can agree with, if I was too use opti again I'd probably run it at 65-70:1 it is pretty expensive, the rebranded 1 gallon packets of us2 are 2$ a piece at my local Meijer. In the lawn and garden section incase anyone is looking for it but can't find it. Though I can't guarantee it will be at your Meijer. 2 bucks for 1.8 oz, I usually get a quart of my oil at 16$
You'd have to get 18 of the packets to equal a quart, that's about 36$ a quart. Though I'm sure it's allot cheaper in bulk. $$$$
 
Going to try this stuff at 32:1 because I purchased20 dollars of it. . I'll let everyone know how it works. I've read this thread till I'm blue in the face, lol! Talk about bringing a thread back from the dead. Talk to me. No bull here I'll let everyone know how it works for me.
 
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I believe in feeding all my 2strokes oil, the more the better. More smoke more oil dripping from the pipes has been working just fine for me for over 30 year's.
 
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TG,

From what I understand about mix oil, too much will cause the burn to be lean.
Which means you could burn a piston in spite of clouds of smoke and oil dripping out the pipe.

Yes, I understand.
That is old school thought.

Two cycle mix oil was never better than the products they make today.

Time to step into the brave new world! lol

Stihl, Yamalube, Motul... I believe they are all running at 50.

I'll look forward to your report while running at 32.
:-)
rc
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