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Intrepid Wheelwoman said:
Hi Zoran, there is no suspension on a Mochet Velocar which I think was never a problem at the speeds they normally traveled at. I think velocars were mostly used on paved surfaces too which would lessen the need for any suspension.



PTITAUTO MOCHET VELOCAR

These seemed to have a simple quarter elliptic front suspension.

http://microcar.e-monsite.com/blog/do/tag/ptitauto-mochet-velocar-georges-charles-microcar-ancien/
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif][/FONT][FONT=Arial, sans-serif]For my desired speeds of 15-20 MPH (if I could add some motor on it, otherwise 10-15 MPH), my quadricycle in present condition or later transformed to velocar - should be quite good with simple MTB front suspension-forks at front and thick foam on seats for rear! Of course, only used on asphalt - difficult to find any macadam road here and for off-road it wouldn't be used.
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That Ptitauto (small auto?) is quite auto for Mochet velocars and it is very cute coupé. Nice and useful photo-strip about building wooden body! [/FONT]
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P.S.: Even in my childhood and early youth, many streets in Belgrade's centre was paved by small square granit bricks - quite a lot of vibration even in good condition! At periphery of city, streets were covered by bigger stone bricks (so-called Roman caldrma), or mostly by iregulrar big stones (so-called Turkish kaldrma) - or: nothing at all!
Quite unfomfortable for any vehilce and terrible for suspension-less velocars!
But, everything change now, even there. Here - no problems!
Z.
 
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That is a interesting place. Could be a hoot for the passenger or a good scare/thrill so to speak. lol Now we have a true back seat driver! Don't know where I am going there is a joke in this somewhere? Ha ha
 
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif][/FONT][FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Many 3-wheelers and 4-wheelers from the end of the XIX and beginning of the XX century - had similar layout! No hard braking and cornering with passenger at front, especially with open "cockpit"! As my present quadricycle has similar layout - we think about reconstructing it to some more "sociable” configuration of velocar with side-by-side seating. Just to spend some time on it as it is: this Summer and Autumn - for pure joy of testing my first movable creation![/FONT]
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Cricket is KOOL, how about a Vanguard twin some old T or A sheet metal for the tub. Wouldn't take much to get one going..............Curt
 
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Yes that's true,just use what you have around or can scrounge. Wouldn't have to be a twin eather,just a fun buggy......Love it.......Curt
 
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I like how low it is to the ground. Could this be done with a matching pair of step through frames? Give it a matching pair of suspension forks and tie the steering together. Single drive wheel in the back, centered to make it legal in the states as a tadpole trike ( low budget tri-car).Something to think about...
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Yep need a Cricket or something like for swap meet buggy. Getting to old to walk all that much but to young for the wheel chair or electric carts,besides it would be a fun project..............Curt
 
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The Balzar Cycle Car would be simple to build. Didn't some of the snowmobiles have a Wankle engine in them?

Might be a good place for an electric motor so your traveling clean and quiet at the flea market.

Steve.
 
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Hello,[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]That "Cricket" attract my attention some years ago... Could be made in every variant: serious motorised quadricycle (cycle-car, from moped engine up to small V-twin, as was mentioned), or as pure velocipede (pedal-powered), or some combination between those tow opposite variants! [/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]For me, interesting would be to cut bicycle's frames of my present quadricycle and made some structure between: having wheel-base of around 170 cm ~ 67”, instead of present too short wheelbase of 108 cm ~ 42 ½ '' …
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Good layout and dimensions for side-by-side seating with easy step-in and step-out in spite of male-bicycle frames (free space in the middle)...[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif] If two of us have crank-shaft pedals connected to one rear wheel (left), then there could be later added engine on a side for another wheel (right)...
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Of course, front MTB forks at front (with springs), simple steering and for beginning bicycle's rim-brakes... Body – nothing or anything: veteran-car, velo-car, Mochet-Ptitauto-Coupe...[/FONT]
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curtisfox said:
http://www.american-automobiles.com/Cycle-Cars/222Balzer-Cyclecar.html
Actually when I was looking up the Cricket Kool and simple . 3'x6' small and portable ,maybe use 20" and 26" . No rotary engine though ..........Curt
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You are not fair! Just as I forgot on Balzer and similar classic quadricycles - you mentioned it again! Great design of super-simplicity!
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P.S.: For the begining - to cut this one in pieces after some months of joy-rides?
 
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fasteddy said:
The Balzar Cycle Car would be simple to build. Didn't some of the snowmobiles have a Wankle engine in them?

Might be a good place for an electric motor so your traveling clean and quiet at the flea market.

Steve.
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Good thought but are a three sided rotary piston a chamber,so don't even look like anything old.
I have a twin Briggs in a lawn tractor along with hydrostatic rear end,i have been saving for this. Just can't waite till the lake place is sold then i will have more time................Curt

https://www.google.com/search?q=Wan...LDhqyv2RM:&usg=__hyIjVPn4pezVuJtZNQ4XG9hd6TM=
 
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