100:1 Mix

If you chosea POLY-OLEFIN SYNTHTIC OIL you are not a BOZO

However I offer a money saving suggestion.

I tired of paying $5 for four Oz of Amsoil SABRE synthetic 2-stroke oil (100:1 needs only 1/36 oz/gal)

I went to ACE hardware where it is a stock item in quarts at $11 a QUART while NAPA 4 oz SaBer is $5 for 4 ounces.

That would be $20 a quart.

ACE's Amsoil Sabre at quart prices is quite a savings and I have premeasured aliquots in nice little 3 oz bottles from the pharmacy in my bike's tool bag and keep big quart bottle inside house

yodar
 
yodar said:
If you chosea POLY-OLEFIN SYNTHTIC OIL you are not a BOZO

However I offer a money saving suggestion.

I tired of paying $5 for four Oz of Amsoil SABRE synthetic 2-stroke oil (100:1 needs only 1/36 oz/gal)

I went to ACE hardware where it is a stock item in quarts at $11 a QUART while NAPA 4 oz SaBer is $5 for 4 ounces.

That would be $20 a quart.

ACE's Amsoil Sabre at quart prices is quite a savings and I have premeasured aliquots in nice little 3 oz bottles from the pharmacy in my bike's tool bag and keep big quart bottle inside house

yodar
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thanks man, and yeah, i use 'bozo' as a name to remind myself to stay humble, i naturally tend toward arrogance so i need to keep my ego in check, lol.

...and thanks for the tip on the oil but i already ordered a 12oz bottle of the Opti II from Amazon, ...12oz's for $12.99, delivered.

Interlube International 12Oz 2 Cyc Oil 21224 Small Engine Oil

peace, bozo
 
I made the switch to Opti-2 100:1 mix and my bike run significantly smoother! Haven't noticed an increase in "performance"....just that overall it runs a lot smoother.
 
runnermike said:
I made the switch to Opti-2 100:1 mix and my bike run significantly smoother! Haven't noticed an increase in "performance"....just that overall it runs a lot smoother.
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Let us know how things are going, Mike. Watch your mix. Typically the less oil you use the richer your fuel to air mix gets. Give it few miles and report back. Your spark plug might go to shades of grey insted of the normal brown colors usually associated with reading them. All of mine are a middle of the road grey running Opti-2.

Tom
 
i want to re-iterate some things people said about saber earlier - its great oil! Im not running it at 100-1 but plan to lean my bike out from 40-1 to 70-1 eventually. super slippery and like $11 for a quart at treatland. -MOTO.wee.
 
I've found Redline leaves reddish carbon deposits so it doesn't hurt to blow the motor out with a little water or Sea Foam cleaner or ATF (prolly the best on a smoker) to get the buildup out. We use seafoam or ATF on rotary engines running premix to get the red stuff out that eventually causes scoring wear inside.

I think all two stroke oils do it to an extent, and synthetics are better about buildup but it still happens somewhat. It can close up your squish ring and cause hot spots, so a smoky top end cleanout isn't a bad thing once in a while depending on use.
 
instead of blowing it out with water or whatever, it's simple.enough to pull the head and clean the combustion chamber with a scotchbrite pad and some carb cleaner.

opti 2 usually doesn't load up the chamber, exhaust port or the top of the piston very much.
 
Well, some of the people haven't upgraded studs or whatnot and HT's are prone to stripping, so a spray bottle with some atf in it into the intake will blow a lot of carbon out if allowed to sit in the combustion chamber for 10 minutes then started and brapped.

Of course the idea behind 100:1 oils is to avoid this cleaning for as long as possible.
 
I Love tearing my motors down often,,so I run castor oil @ 32:1,,I don't

see much smoke,,but it smells good :)

I should experiment and come up with a synthetic castor oil blend.

Good times :)
 
16v4nrbrgr said:
Well, some of the people haven't upgraded studs or whatnot and HT's are prone to stripping, so a spray bottle with some atf in it into the intake will blow a lot of carbon out if allowed to sit in the combustion chamber for 10 minutes then started and brapped.

Of course the idea behind 100:1 oils is to avoid this cleaning for as long as possible.
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right. i've pulled motors apart after 6 months or so and there's very little build-up with opti 2.

i've also pulled motors apart after 2 weeks of someone running 24:1 bargain brand oil and it's burnt on like roofing tar.

side note, i don't run opti2 in my race bikes anymore.

i went through a period of blowing holes in pistons and melting the chrome off cylinder walls, which was due to a combination of things, like the carb and expansion chamber not being in tune with each other, and i found that lucas or klotz at 24:1 is more forgiving.

plus the smoke burns the eyes of the guy behind me... :)

these motors never get run at low rpm and get torn down after a race, so build-up isn't a problem.
 
That opti 2 is FANNNNTASSTIC!!!!!!! i just got 2 more bottles yesterday...i also had to set them straight ( cough cough) lets not go there . i do wht i do and im doin it.
 
I use 100:1 Opti-2 on my Tanaka 47R. The best price for me was a 4-liter container, purchased locally. That'll last for almost 13,000 miles.dance1
 
Hey! There's 5-7 !

13k miles of fine riding on the island paradise !!!!

Wow!

Gosh I'd like to be there doing that !

:-)
rc
 
I am bumping this old thread because it is only 97 pages long. No, but seriously I read the first 30 pages or so and left off where Bairdco and 2door were discussing a possible "issue" when switching over to Opti2 on china dolls that were bronken in using conventional (non-synthetic) oil.

Despite the fascinating topic and wealth of information to be gleaned, I just couldn't bring myself to read the next 70 pages to find the answer.

So, what was the general concensus about switching a HT motor that was broken in with conventional over to Opti-2 @ 100:1, etc. ?
 
Some engines like it, some don't. There was never anything conclusive as to why. Lots of theories but no hard facts.

The engine I had that didn't respond well to Opti-2 is now retired. It had close to 2k miles on it but the bike was so uncomfortable to ride that it now hangs from my garage ceiling. It was still running strong when I put it up there but it wanted standard 2 stroke oil. Since that engine I've been running Opti @100:1 in all my other engines. I break in @100:1 and never change. I also use it in my 2 stroke lawn and garden equipment. Snow blower, leaf blower, edger/trimmer and a little roto tiller. They all seem to thrive on the 100:1 Opti-2.

Tom
 
Groove said:
I am bumping this old thread because it is only 97 pages long. No, but seriously I read the first 30 pages or so and left off where Bairdco and 2door were discussing a possible "issue" when switching over to Opti2 on china dolls that were bronken in using conventional (non-synthetic) oil.

Despite the fascinating topic and wealth of information to be gleaned, I just couldn't bring myself to read the next 70 pages to find the answer.

So, what was the general concensus about switching a HT motor that was broken in with conventional over to Opti-2 @ 100:1, etc. ?
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Well, I use Opti 2 cause it is good oil . I use opti2 NON synthetic,..yes u can get both kinds. I use it at 24:1 . I get it from the Sthill dealers.
Synthetic oil voids my warrenty cause it burns too clean and does not leave enough residue on the cylinder walls. My motor been runnin for 5 years now and is still goin strong. 100:1 ?????? thats moastly for boat motors that are water cooled.
 
Blakenstein said:
Well, I use Opti 2 cause it is good oil . I use opti2 NON synthetic,..yes u can get both kinds. I use it at 24:1 . I get it from the Sthill dealers.
Synthetic oil voids my warrenty cause it burns too clean and does not leave enough residue on the cylinder walls. My motor been runnin for 5 years now and is still goin strong. 100:1 ?????? thats moastly for boat motors that are water cooled.
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yeah, i don't know about a NON-synthetic Opti 2 man, have you got a link?

...i've only got 117 miles on my new bike but i've been running 100:1 from day one, 1.3 ounces of Opti 2 per gallon of fuel and it seems like the more i ride it the better it runs, ...it also runs virtually smoke free and i don't leave any oil stains under the bike when i park it. ...which also means my bike stays clean because it doesn't have a patina of oil anywhere on the bike to suck dirt to my bike, lol.

personally, i love the stuff.

peace, bozo

btw, if you're running a standard chinagirl 2 stroke, how solid do you think the 'warranty' is? ...especially from a company that recommends 16:1 for break-in.
 
$35 for a new jug,piston,and rings,,why worry about anything,,I would try the 100:1 no problem,,its just that i like the smell of castor oil so much i wont,,also like the idea of the 32:1 ratio,,the extra oil is good for it,,its a 2 stroke,,how long is it gonna stay together anyway...lol


Good times....

Tom :)
 
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