Easy Rider
Santa Cruz Scooter Works
All I hear is Cheap Cheap Cheap.
Cheap and racing don't go hand and hand unless you enjoy being in the back of the pack.
Why Chose A 212?
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All I hear is Cheap Cheap Cheap.
Cheap and racing don't go hand and hand unless you enjoy being in the back of the pack.
The_Aleman
Active Member
All I hear is Cheap Cheap Cheap.
Cheap and racing don't go hand and hand unless you enjoy being in the back of the pack.
Oh I know, I had a 12-second Volkswagen for a while. But you know, it was pretty cheap and I didn't fear anything but Los Gatos turbo Porsches back then.
I'd love to race my HS against a BoXer cross country. Legs are cheap and make all the difference. Well maybe not in a BoXer's case.
Easy Rider
Santa Cruz Scooter Works
I'd love to race my HS against a BoXer cross country. Legs are cheap and make all the difference. Well maybe not in a BoXer's case.
Either that was some deep stuff or it just flew over my head because I didn't understand a word of this. LOL
I'm just messing with you Aleman!
The_Aleman
Active Member
LOL, I'm just a 230lb guy standing on 7" crank arms is all.. 2 Chinese horsepower needs compensation. Hopefully not standing on my own crank
scotto-
Custom 4-Stroke Bike Builder
LOL, I'm just a 230lb guy standing on 7" crank arms is all.. 2 Chinese horsepower needs compensation. Hopefully not standing on my own crank
OUCH! Don't do that, you could damage an unhardened crank that way
bairdco
a guy who makes cool bikes
How do you figure that you are 1 mile an hour slower than Arrow?
radar gun
physics.
scotto-
Custom 4-Stroke Bike Builder
I like this guy reeeaallly
True words of a loser (wannabe moderater). I think I can mount a 212cc with 2 hockey pucks and some bubblegum, toss the ace bandage idea Yeah, let's get rid of the 4-stroke forum so when no more china girls are allowed in the US due to EPA and CARB compliancy, all we'll have is electrics. I'm building my second one now.......
bairdco
a guy who makes cool bikes
there's always gonna be 2 strokes around, scotto. maybe not the china's, but there's plenty of other motors out there, ya just gotta think outside of the tiny chinese puzzle box.
look into powered paraglider motors, and you might rethink your distaste for 2 smokers.
how about a 100cc with over 20hp, all billet aluminum, and just slightly larger than a china doll, and still way smaller than your 4 stroker?
you'll be choking on blue smoke if anyone steps up and builds it...
look into powered paraglider motors, and you might rethink your distaste for 2 smokers.
how about a 100cc with over 20hp, all billet aluminum, and just slightly larger than a china doll, and still way smaller than your 4 stroker?
you'll be choking on blue smoke if anyone steps up and builds it...
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scotto-
Custom 4-Stroke Bike Builder
there's always gonna be 2 strokes around, scotto. maybe not the china's, but there's plenty of other motors out there, ya just gotta think outside of the tiny chinese puzzle box.
look into powered paraglider motors, and you might rethink your distaste for 2 smokers.
how about a 100cc with over 20hp, all billet aluminum, and just slightly larger than a china doll, and still way smaller than your 4 stroker?
you'll be choking on blue smoke if anyone steps up and builds it...
I guess ya never new that I grew up around 2-strokes and raced and rode them for years. I hated 4-strokes as a kid. I still love 2-strokes and have a couple that will smoke anything I've seen of yours so far.......I'll always love 2-strokes, just don't mess with them much anymore. Among the 2-strokes I've owned include Bultaco's, CZ, Maico, benelli, Honda's, Suzuki's, Yamaha, Zundapp, Tanaka's, McCullochs, Chung Yangs and the list goes on. I was riding 2-strokes before you were born! So zippit.
MotorBicycleRacing
Well-Known Member
If anyone builds and races a 20 hp 2 or 4 stroke they wouldn't
be racing against scotto in the 11.999 hp top class at SMBR events.
A 20 hp race bike would be in the "UNLIMITED" class where the only
other bikes are AGK's 18 hp 4 stroke monsta bike and LFP 40 to 50 hp
eMotorcycle.
culvercityclassic
Well-Known Member
there's more than just your races, in case you haven't noticed...
anyone can build anything they want as an alternative to the 212, which is what this threads about. it's not about you approving it.
This thread was to show that we do have some smaller engines to chose from...and would like to see how creative people are with finding an alternate choice for power...
Baird be nice to Neil...
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Goat Herder
Gutter Rider
Now we are talking nice power size and weight ratio! This can be a awesome simple and very efficient engine mechanically speaking.there's always gonna be 2 strokes around, scotto. maybe not the china's, but there's plenty of other motors out there, ya just gotta think outside of the tiny chinese puzzle box.
look into powered paraglider motors, and you might rethink your distaste for 2 smokers.
how about a 100cc with over 20hp, all billet aluminum, and just slightly larger than a china doll, and still way smaller than your 4 stroker?
you'll be choking on blue smoke if anyone steps up and builds it...
young grease monkey
New Member
Aircraft engines are very expensive. A used kx65 can be had for $600-700, then you can part it out and have a nearly free engine that puts out 14 HP with a 5 speed. I wonder why nobody has done this yet. Maybe not approved to race some places, but it would be a great bike just to ride. Some people have built 212s for purposes other than racing. Who doesn't want to do wheelies down the street?
scotto-
Custom 4-Stroke Bike Builder
Why not just drop the CR500R 5-speed into a bicycle frame, as opposed to the KX65?
I guess people just don't get the topic here and have alot to say about it??
Goat Herder
Gutter Rider
Ayup
latest uber Kewl race results from just two days ago with a very wide margin this time from what I heard??
Because two strokes just plain rule baby !! Well I like'em ''shrug''Stock Class (new racers, 50cc bikes, low powered E Bikes, etc...)
1. #8 Edan 212cc 4 stroke (1st time racer. graduates to pro class for next race)
2. #114 Will (SoSauty) #3K electric
3. #6 Jeff Wolf (CCC) China
4. #96 Sin (nostyle) - China
5. #420 No Info? Can't remember your name, sorry... (china)
DNF #A200 Dennis Bell (DMB) - Morini
DNF #26 Super Harry - 4 stroke
DNF #60 Bob Turk (Turkman) - China
DNF #3 Erwin Bragg - Whizzer
DNF #40 Todd Lane - China
Pro Class (modified Chinas, Faster E Bikes, Mid 4 strokes)
1. #8 Steve (Magrider) China
2. #89 Ryan Scruggs (Arrow Cycles)
3. #98 Brian Nash (Nashmoto) 49cc 4stroke
4. #68 Norman (Venice Bikes) China
Ultimate Class (Everything Else)
1. #116 Bart- Farfle's Ebike
2. #100 Luke (Live For Physics) - Ebike
3. #69 Ken Vidal - Boxer '''Morini''
4. #98 Brian Nash (Nashmoto) 196cc 4 stroke
5. #3 Scotto (200cc 4 stroke)
6. #8 Steve (magrider) - 11HP Morini
http://www.morinifrancousa.com/engine1.htm
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culvercityclassic
Well-Known Member
Hey Goat...Scotto does have a very fast four stroke( he did stall the bike at the start of the race) but then again it makes a lot more power then the Morini it just a handful to ride. I rode my Boxer around the track and really enjoyed it. I had the best time on my china powered Dyno. You may not see me build anymore big motor bikes, I have had my kicks and now its time to move on...
Goat Herder
Gutter Rider
He stalled it and could never catch up. That is a major bummer running up against a 200cc was going to be a heck of a line up. Anything can happen. Looks like EZ's 50cc class Morini two stroke was running pretty fast to be right behind the electrics and ahead of a 196cc.!! Should have been a closer race sorry to hear that Scotto
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