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  • https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08CHMN726/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?smid=AUCRDO1LL2HDV&psc=1

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  • https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071YQ8F2Z/ref=ox_sc_act_image_5?smid=AG0F0UJGMJQPO&psc=1

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  • https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08DFTJM1L/ref=ox_sc_act_image_7?smid=A5WW6ELJS9628&psc=1

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  • https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B073PT1LPW/ref=ox_sc_act_image_8?smid=A1B4V5VJQK2QAS&psc=1

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  • Can this work with little mechanic skills? https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B072P1PFHY/ref=ox_sc_act_i

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  • Worth the extra? https://www.bicycle-engines.com/new-zeda-80-complete-80cc-motorized-bicycle-engine-

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  • Worth extra/belt style? https://www.bicycle-engines.com/new-zeda-80-t-belt-drive-complete-80cc-bicyc

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  • Other / please comment a link and why worth the little extra $$

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Lotus

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Howdy,

I'm building a hill climber, not a street racer or commuter. There are so many brands and merchants selling motor kits now that it's crazy.

I'm looking for guidance/tips on which kit I should select on a budget ;).

56 to 60 tooth sprocket
Hopefully sprocket adapter
If it's bad, I will do port clean-up
Adding generic Amazon spring tensioner x2
Cheap aftermarket carb

Here is my thread for more detail if genuinely interested!

Thank you for your time and expertise!
 

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Howdy,

I'm building a hill climber, not a street racer or commuter. There are so many brands and merchants selling motor kits now that it's crazy.

I'm looking for guidance/tips on which kit I should select on a budget ;).

56 to 60 tooth sprocket
Hopefully sprocket adapter
If it's bad, I will do port clean-up
Adding generic Amazon spring tensioner x2
Cheap aftermarket carb

Here is my thread for more detail if genuinely interested!

Thank you for your time and expertise!


 

mapbike

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Howdy,

I'm building a hill climber, not a street racer or commuter. There are so many brands and merchants selling motor kits now that it's crazy.

I'm looking for guidance/tips on which kit I should select on a budget ;).

56 to 60 tooth sprocket
Hopefully sprocket adapter
If it's bad, I will do port clean-up
Adding generic Amazon spring tensioner x2
Cheap aftermarket carb

Here is my thread for more detail if genuinely interested!

Thank you for your time and expertise!
zeda type engine best I can tell, 8mm mounting studs, has the new style jug with long open transfers and a better than stock head for more compression nd better cooling.

I hvent bought one of these engines from him yet, but I hve been buying from this guy since 2009 with good results, some people cuss this guy, but after dozens of transactions over the years, I have zero complaints personally.


If this isn't helpful in some way, please ignor.

 
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zeda type engine best I can tell, 8mm mounting studs, has the new style jug with long open transfers and a better than stock head for more compression nd better cooling.

I hvent bought one of these engines from him yet, but I hve been buying from this guy since 2009 with good results, some people cuss this guy, but after dozens of transactions over the years, I have zero complaints personally.


If this isn't helpful in some way, please ignor.

I second mapbike, have been buying fro BGF for 9 yrs.
 
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Lotus

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Thank you for the link to a reputable part!

zeda type engine best I can tell, 8mm mounting studs, has the new style jug with long open transfers and a better than stock head for more compression nd better cooling.

I hvent bought one of these engines from him yet, but I hve been buying from this guy since 2009 with good results, some people cuss this guy, but after dozens of transactions over the years, I have zero complaints personally.


If this isn't helpful in some way, please ignor.

Definitely is useful and is not ignored!

I genuinely appreciate you linking me to a motor and giving me some background. I do like that it has the upgraded head and hopefully no porting needed since the description kind of insinuates the ports are sized differently (lmk if I'm wrong!)

I'll look around and try to find a whole kit with the zeda/bgf to consider.
I second mapbike, have been buying fro BGF for 9 yrs.
Thank you for your comment buddy. I appreciate you taking time to send your .02!

Either of you have neat builds/photos you felt like sharing? Np if not!

Keep the input and opinions coming my new friends :)

(Looking for torque primarily, not top end speed)
 
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Thank you for the link to a reputable part!



Definitely is useful and is not ignored!

I genuinely appreciate you linking me to a motor and giving me some background. I do like that it has the upgraded head and hopefully no porting needed since the description kind of insinuates the ports are sized differently (lmk if I'm wrong!)

I'll look around and try to find a whole kit with the zeda/bgf to consider.

Thank you for your comment buddy. I appreciate you taking time to send your .02!

Either of you have neat builds/photos you felt like sharing? Np if not!

Keep the input and opinions coming my new friends :)

(Looking for torque primarily, not top end speed)
One of my first builds, about 9yrs ago. Was really to small of a bike but with 6 speeds it could fly or climb any mountain trail.
 

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My blue build (Diablo Azul) has a variable ratio belt drive with a 5 hp 2 cycle engine and also can fly or climb anything.
The orange Cheetah also has a variable drive but only a 2-1/2 hp two cycle engine, still it will scoot!
 

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One of my first builds, about 9yrs ago. Was really to small of a bike but with 6 speeds it could fly or climb any mountain trail.
Russell!!! Thank you so very much for all of the pictures! They made me smile alot, i'm not gonna lie lol.

I'd love to hear more about the 6 speed bike! Any more info on this guy? I really dig allllll of the builds you showed me. I really enjoyed the idea of the 2nd seat and handle bars on the back of the one, lol - epic! Perfect to slowly stroll around town with the wife ;)

I was taking a gander at the bike and motor today and I think I realized that if I buy a shift kit for a new bike/set-up, i'll also have to buy a new pedal-kit, as i think the shift kit will make the pedal hit.
 

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Russell!!! Thank you so very much for all of the pictures! They made me smile alot, i'm not gonna lie lol.

I'd love to hear more about the 6 speed bike! Any more info on this guy? I really dig allllll of the builds you showed me. I really enjoyed the idea of the 2nd seat and handle bars on the back of the one, lol - epic! Perfect to slowly stroll around town with the wife ;)

I was taking a gander at the bike and motor today and I think I realized that if I buy a shift kit for a new bike/set-up, i'll also have to buy a new pedal-kit, as i think the shift kit will make the pedal hit.
Well I cannot comment on the shift kit or pedal kit as I have never bought either one. I usually just fabricate what I need, however i realize this is not an option for some. All I can say is you go multi speed with a standard engine, you will not regret it. I built the 6 speed 10 yrs ago but will try to find info/link.
 

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Well I cannot comment on the shift kit or pedal kit as I have never bought either one. I usually just fabricate what I need, however i realize this is not an option for some. All I can say is if you go multi speed with a standard engine, you will not regret it. I built the 6 speed 10 yrs ago but will try to find info/link.
http://motorbicycling.com/showthread.php?t=12284

Here is an old link to my 6 speed build. Ignore the freewheel in pic DSCN2364.JPG you only need a standard gear.
 
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Well I cannot comment on the shift kit or pedal kit as I have never bought either one. I usually just fabricate what I need, however i realize this is not an option for some. All I can say is you go multi speed with a standard engine, you will not regret it. I built the 6 speed 10 yrs ago but will try to find info/link.
Thats alright! I still appreciate everything else you have provided.

I really enjoyed the info on the link you sent and the mount / shaft kit looks SO nice and clean! Great craftsmanship sir!

I noticed you may have some tricks up your sleeve on pull start. Anything that would relay to 2 stroke 80cc? I would LOVE pull start, especially for my wife's build.

I appreciate that you are so helpful and active over all of these years. I see you on a lot of other threads with nothing but helpful positivity and realistic expectations.
 

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Thats alright! I still appreciate everything else you have provided.

I really enjoyed the info on the link you sent and the mount / shaft kit looks SO nice and clean! Great craftsmanship sir!

I noticed you may have some tricks up your sleeve on pull start. Anything that would relay to 2 stroke 80cc? I would LOVE pull start, especially for my wife's build.

I appreciate that you are so helpful and active over all of these years. I see you on a lot of other threads with nothing but helpful positivity and realistic expectations.
As far as pull starts go, I've had a few of various models. Many, many complain about them but the real truth IMHO is they usually fail because the rider fails to pull in the clutch (sooner or later) when pulling. This exerts much more strain than the pull starter was designed for. Of course they usually say "What a POS"
 

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As far as pull starts go, I've had a few of various models. Many, many complain about them but the real truth IMHO is they usually fail because the rider fails to pull in the clutch (sooner or later) when pulling. This exerts much more strain than the pull starter was designed for. Of course they usually say "What a POS"
Perfect! I'll just snag one and give it a shot. I appreciate the tip and background info on their probable failure lol.
I can still pedal start when its attached right? Even if it breaks?

Sorry for the silly question!
 

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Perfect! I'll just snag one and give it a shot. I appreciate the tip and background info on their probable failure lol.
I can still pedal start when its attached right? Even if it breaks?

Sorry for the silly question!
There are no serious questions that are silly. If i can bump start, I do not use a pull start. However some may prefer a pull start. I do not want to use a pull start in in stop & go traffic. However the most important thing is to keep your engine tuned so that it starts easily with bump or pull start.
 
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There are no serious questions that are silly. If i can bump start, I do not use a pull start. However some may prefer a pull start. I do not want to use a pull start in in stop & go traffic. However the most important thing is to keep your engine tuned so that it starts easily with bump or pull start.
Yeah I personally dont mind bump start and would probably only pull start after its warm. Was kind of an extra feature, not a necessity, for my wife's build :)

Could you advise me on porting? Found a bike and new in the box kit 80cc for 100$ on Craigslist today. (Wow lol)
I am partially familiar with porting, I just am not sure how to port for good low/mid range torque vs for speed. Id like to be able to accelerate or climb easy at low end vs fast speed on my top end. Do I trim top? Make it wider? Open to suggestions, as its a controversial subject :)


Also LMAO at the Twix up the sleeve! Thank you for that.