Mongo, 48v 1000w 'Magic Pie' hub on a Mongoose 'Snarl'

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motortriker

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that looks like a nice little unit for $23.95. going to do a little research on it. as of right now the one barely awake has link to seems like might be better for the ebikes
That is the cheapest way I know to put a good fuel guage on an ebike.
 

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Heya barely, i'm gonna be keepin an eye on your mongoose here once you throw a HT on it, got two of these bikes sitting the the cellar just waiting for an idea of how to put a motor on em, never dealt with oversize frames before, these ones look especially... oversized, so i'm not so sure how to proceed. I know i have some threads bookmarked somewhere dealing with this issue, but reckon i'd ask you first since you have the same bike/more relevant information.

Cheers
Ygg
 

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NP Yggdrasil - but I'd suggest not waiting for me to get one o'these lol;


...as at this point I'm not entirely sure what I'm gonna do, Mongo has turned out so well that the "just a quick test of the ehub" phase has turned into at least two months of constant use so far & I'm kinda tempted to leave it as is & just get another hub for the taddy & another bike for a winter beater - then again if I do that I'll prolly just get another Mongoose Snarl so... erm... yea, I dunno heh

Anyway, I did a quick "test fit" with one of the in-frame kit two smokers by just holding one in there (w/o carb & exhaust) & it seems to have the room, close enough to work with anyway & for the oversized down tube mount I was thinkin' about fabricating something similar to the SBP "large universal front mount";



With an over sized U bolt & steel "pads" (1/2 chunks of pipe) to help diffuse the crush load/crimping force (pics are frm my Rollfast);



...the Mongoose's D tube isn't perfectly round/symmetrical in cross section, so a U bolt clamp may have to be fabricated/modified specifically for it, but that's not a particularly difficult task *shrug*

Good luck & remember to keep us posted!
 
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I'd still fill in the gaps with black RTV. I've heard people say it won't stand up to the vibes but it worked on the bike I used it on for quite a while. Sure is cheap stuff. Just goop the stuff on the bike frame and the mount partswhere they meet the frame let er dry then clamp it down sure did take a lot of the vibes out of the bike.
 

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are your battery's in seperate packs? explaine how that is done please. is it two 24v. how are they wired ect. i am still trying to figure out this battery stuff.
 

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Hmm? Yea, duals for better weight n'balance (mounted low) but now that you mention it, I've no idea how they chose to do it - I just asked www.pingbattery.com to split one into dual packs, they said NP & charged me $10 *shrug*

Seemed like a good deal to me lol
 

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i was thinking the same thing maybe making a 48volt into a 60 volt or something like that however i wouldn't even know where to begin
 

paul

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hate to sound stupid however lol how exactly would you do this? postive to positive or positive to negative?
 

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It may not be that simple. Barely Awake's set up is split b/w 2 batteries with the same BMS. You would be using different batteries and two different BMS's that is a concern. Don't modify anything until you get educated buy people who have experience with what you want to do - Email Ping/GoldenMotors/possibly other forums/etc. I am appreciating and enjoying everyone's builds!
 

paul

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thanks mike. gonna do a lot of research on this. i wouldn't mind learning to make my own battery packs.
 

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Yeah. I would like to do one too.

Actually I might. The GM pack is 16 cells in series with top screw terminals all connected with metal bars. I saw this when I removed the top to remove the handle. I could actually pull the guts out of the box and custom do an in frame.

But ride first, modify later - :)
 

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i been looking at the flat battery packs. still need to do a lot more research however i think they might be lighter then the cylinder type. what i would like to do as i learn more is maybe start a thread called batteries for dummy's lol. the bms and all the things about ebikes i am brand new to. shoot never have to work on our motors i want to do something lol. the batteries are the biggest expense and one of the most important parts of all ebikes. i am not positive yet but i have to believe it would be a nice savings if we built our own batteries
 

Mike B

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I don't think you are gonna save anything.

But the flexibility of packaging is attractive.

The manufacturers are always going to get a better price than us. They buy lots. We buy few. But buying cells means you have the flexibility of assenbling them into any shape you want.
 

paul

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dang mike ruin my moment lol. actually this all fascinates me and i think i would enjoy building them. i am going to research it more as i said
 

BarelyAWake

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I don't think you are gonna save anything.

But the flexibility of packaging is attractive...
Agreed, after S&H there's not much in the way of savings vs say www.pingbattery.com... but if/when I do another ebike, I'll prolly make my own battery packs anyway.

Here's a link for R&D (components, cells, BMS, etc) - be warned that while I'd order from them, I haven't yet so I know nothing about the business lol: http://www.bmsbattery.com/51-battery-cell
 
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paul

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great link thank you geoff. ping battery will not ship to the vi for some reason. so searching all options out their