Money is being quietly put aside a bit at a time for a looped frame and tank from Pat. I'm thinking that a sidecar will be added. Electric power disguised as a V twin would certainly deepen the appeal. Most likely the path I'll follow. I look at the tanks the later Indians had and I agree with you about purchasing one. I have seen some that were beautifully made then I consider the work involved. As I've said before I also will be buying the major components from Pat simply because they are first quality and he did the heavy hauling in designing and building them. The coffin tool box will be perfect. No more having to worry about fit and finish. This build will simply be a motor bike with no known build in mind. I simply have to follow along and put them together. I will most likely build the camel back gas tank to see if it can be done and see if I can find a frame for it. Probably build it as a single and save the V twin efforts for Pat's frame. Considering a trip to a large motor home gathering in Arizona in January and after that a trip over to Pat's and pick up the parts if it's possible. That way I can order and pay ahead of time and have it waiting. All I need to do now is live to 95 in good health to get it all done. Steve.