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fasteddy

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Anything I suggested is for pain management only. Tom is 100% correct when he said if there is something physically wrong you need to have it looked at by either a doctor or a surgeon, because, as I found out, delaying will not make it get better and you may well hear that if you had gone in to have it looked at when it started the repair and recovery would have been much better.

On the other hand if you don't, you may have 40 years or so to live with the regret of not doing it in a timely fashion.........and the pain.

Steve.
 
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Anything I suggested is for pain management only. Tom is 100% correct when he said if there is something physically wrong you need to have it looked at by either a doctor or a surgeon, because, as I found out, delaying will not make it get better and you may well hear that if you had gone in to have it looked at when it started the repair and recovery would have been much better.

On the other hand if you don't, you may have 40 years or so to live with the regret of not doing it in a timely fashion.........and the pain.

Steve.
So true, how well I know.......Curt
 

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So true, how well I know.......Curt
I will have an appointment with my surgeon soon, this since about 2 & 1/2 months ago operation was completed. I can continue with the Physical Therapy and some times the incision area can stand long sleeve shirts which was not earlier on. Though, after while sometimes that will make it very sore.

If the visit to follow up with with the surgeon can see anything wrong with the healing, I would be interested in that.

I have a book on PT call "How of Ow". I skipped to the end of the book after reading about 20 pages. There at the end of the book were exercises for ulnar and median nerves. The beginning really talked a bit about pain that can still be sensed when healing is completed.

I guess a kind of over fight / flight response of the mind not forgetting the pain some how. I was not sure the whole book would be on that. Oh, I can understand this being true, but I was told recovery could be a few months to over a year.

I suppose a nerve conduction test would tell what is better so far. I just don't like the idea of needles, wires, and shock testing, since the incision area is not in my opinion ready for that if long sleeves are still a problem.

Vitamin supplements C and Zinc tablets I was prescribed. I am not using them now, but I really like fresh squeezed orange juice. My orange tree has lots of bloom ready to open.

I found at the bigger city market 8lb bags of oranges for 6 bucks. I got 2 bags and have orange juice with at least half the pulp added back in. One thing for sure is, for a while my mind is elevated to some place that is more than OK! I am not using all of the juice very quickly. I know how the sugar in the juice, although natural, can be too much in some way if not in moderation.
 

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For what it's worth, while zinc amps up the immune system it is hail on bone.
Hog farmers were using zinc in the feed as a cheap "natural" disease prevention. But then the pigs started breaking leg bones. Zinc was displacing calcium. I was taking zinc for the while until hog study.
It does make your pee a wonderous golden colour. Think spelling yor name in a snow bank. (^)
 

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In the last couple of days getting gardening done, I was swinging a pick axe, and putting in tomato plant. My back and side hurt a bit, so lazed around the day resting.

Then probably should have waited till morning to finish planting. It was mosquitos not any serious back pain.

This morning back at it and finished up.

At my physical therapy I mentioned that the incision that had been feeling numb and with pain as well, has been reduced to the funny bone area in my elbow.

It is serendipity? Doing work as long as it is not too strenuous for me now is good, maybe it is the blood flowing that helped healing. Still my hand pain is the same, just less med.

At this point I am looking at going snorkeling in my drysuit. No tanks and led. Testing putting on the suit at home first, just to tell if I am ready seems right. The PT did not disagree.

Doing the valve job on the briggs engine, what 6 months ago, that is when I started the job? Things happen.

Riding the bike once back with the job done, I will have to see if I am ready.

Windsurfing sounds good, but that could be too much and also the suit for that is a wetsuit, tight fitting against the skin. This probably should be only when I get rid of all pain. I just don't want to cause the healing to stop and consider that the action could jeopardize the surgery results over time.

MT
 

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Not long after I wrote the last post on Monday, I felt on Tuesday morning I would BBQ. Since there were so many pine needles and cones from the tree in the picnic area (I call it that as I have a Rustic Oak Picnic Table), I decided to rake it up.

Raking and putting the piles in a wagon with a snow shovel went well. It is the best tool for the job, a snow shovel.

After taking the wagon to dump a few times, I had a mishap and got a thumb nail between a catch and latch. I was wanting to use the built in dump feature on the wagon. It worked fine. I just wanted to tilt the wagon just a little more to empty what did not fall out because of the lip on the wagon bed sides.

In effort to tilt the wagon a bit more, the wagon front wheels came off the ground and dump lock closed the gap between it and the dump bed catch.

It hurt really bad, but I used an ice pack and Ibuprofen. So, it is much better and will BBQ later.

The thumb side was not the one with the nerve pain, that could have been worse. The nail will not probably fall off as it is just a small spot with purple underneath it.

Anything left in the wagon bed is better removed by hand. I’m getting the idea a little extra time and it is worth it. Less risking a repeat like that again.

The snorkeling with wetsuit gloves or dry suit gloves would be not so good right now. I will have to wait to go snorkeling while the nail becomes less sensitive.

Garden gloves I put on though. I pulled weeds in the garden, and ready for seeing more fruit sets of oranges and ripening of blueberries.
 

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Got a gig, been busy, but it’s over now. Increased the time I could walk in a day and do work but it’s still not much. A month ago I did 6 hours standing and sitting over and over then was floored tired for 3 days, now I can almost do that without being so tired. Heavy fatigue is still a problem.

Starting to think about different projects I’d like to do but I’m not sure I can start now if I even had the money. Maybe at the end of the summer that’ll be around a year since, I’ll have more energy hopefully.

I would like to do a hotrod drift truck from an old shell. I found this custom called the “Trophy Rat” which is kinda the direction I want to go; but I didn’t like how all the old pickups have short regular cabs. Well found this other project where they grafted a 5-window coupe to the frame and shaped the bed to fit making an extended cab pickup. Id like to combine these setups to make a comfortable drift truck that I could drive a long time and kick the seat back to rest along the way. Thinkin with a $1k shell I could build the whole thing for the same cost as a bike (4-5k), they pop up occasionally just saw a larger truck shell for about $1k.
 

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There is some serious fabricating going on in 7837. If you are looking for physical therapy and an end product? The game is on.
Good to hear from you Tony, we are rooting for you. (^)

Tom
Yeah Tom, the physical side hopefully won’t stop getting better over time . I think building stuff may be more mental therapy.
 
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Update on status: 4.5 months after my surgery, cubital tunnel syndrome:

My last physical therapy that lasted about 7 sessions ended about 2 weeks ago.

My intention of getting in my dry suit and going scuba diving and taking underwater photography is slowly making headway.

I only used snorkeling equipment a few days ago, to spend around 45 minutes in a relatively warm river.

For my dry suit undergarments this time of year, I only used the thin caplin wicking top and bottom. It is amazing how much easier it is to get into the dry suit with less lofty material for warmth.

For the Pacific Ocean I would always wear the Polarguard 400 Two Way Stretch lofty jumpsuit.

Since the suit has wrist seals that also accept dry gloves in place of seals, this is what I have been using since a year now.

It still does remain to be seen, if I have enough manual dexterity in my fingers through a dry glove to operate an underwater camera housings buttons. Otherwise, I would put back the wrist seals and use wet suit gloves.

Before the surgery I had done some scuba diving in very cold river water. At that time the temperature of the water in the river seemed colder than the ocean.

At that time, my hands and forehead were so cold, I got the dry gloves and the liners (the inside dry glove undergarment).

The forehead brain freeze pain, if it were to be happening again, would probably be in waters of less than 50 F.

Then I will have to probably get a custom-made hood. Either that or I use some neoprene and glue some extra neoprene onto my existing hood.
For an evaluation of how things went for the snorkeling, I had a period of acclimation to being in the water. Then it was all fine. While in the water I never had any stinging pain in my hand. It has always been that way, anyway though.

It was calming to see the juvenal steel head trout while I was looking for what I had previously seen while on scuba. That is that prior I saw some I-beam steel part from a way long time ago mill.

This snorkeling with no lead weights, had me restricted to only be on the surface. I could still see the bottom around 20 feet deep OK. Just some plant life, though not a dangerous blue green algae, just some other aquatic stuff that lives for a while, it clouds up some areas.

After the snorkeling, where I used my arms for a little extra propulsion doing back stroke, when the wind came up, I later had some delayed pain from that activity.

It was nothing worse than I have from other daily life. After I do some strenuous exercise when I am wearing long sleeve shirt, the elbow get sore at the incision area around the elbow and lets me know it.

Jackets or like the dry suit sleeve, does since the surgery, have my arm irritated if I wear them. My arm does favor sleeveless mostly on the operated side.

So, it was not like that before the operation, but that just how it is, when a surgeon must be able to cut away scar tissue on the ulnar nerve to solve neuropathic hand pain. A year after the surgery I was told it could take for the arm to be better.

Also, in a years’ time, for the neuropathy in the hand to be better. I will be getting along to see about that specifically.

There is issue in my cervical spine for the nerve paths there as well. Just I don’t want to have two operations healing concurrently. And it is always possible in a double crush syndrome, one areas operation might be enough to stop the hand pain alone.

I washed the dry suit and gear to be ready for next time. See attached picture. The 2-liter green plastic bottle with some ace bandage material, seals up the neck seal to keep the inside of the suit dry while I wash it.
The dry suit is a second one, that same model I had to replace when the one I had in use for about 25 years was beyond fixing.

While owning that prior suit, I only washed the inside of the dry suit, or accidentally had the inside of the suit get washed, a total of 3 times.

It takes a long time to dry out the inside of a dry suit, so it is not recommended to wash the inside of a dry suit, unless it stinks. I have the Pete Wader Dryer. I can use it on the dry suit, as air drying alone can have the attached boots never drying without heat.

The undergarments I wash.

Other: The valve job on my non-adjustable valve Briggs 3.5HP, I have put off for some time, due to healing as well.

It is such that wrenching and pulling out valves and grinding the stem tips, to bring back mechanical timing, would be painful as the surgery is still healing.

This is also aside from getting the engine back on the bike fiasco. It is a one-of-a-kind DIY Briggs bike.

Though given the snorkeling being a first after surgery, I am to see about wrenching that bike back to OHV riding trails again.

Windsurfing and using a tight-fitting wetsuit after a year healing could be possible, I suppose. The issue with windsurfing, even using a boom harness that reduces stress on the arms, it could be too much too soon. I’m not tossing my sailing stuff out and look to sailing some more.

MT

PS: the dry suit zipper, I guess I recall as what is the same as in a space suit.

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