100:1 Mix
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biknut
Well-Known Member
Not your MB too? How come?
MotorBicycleRacing
Well-Known Member
Yes there is.
CulverCityClassic is running Opti-4 in his 11 hp 4 stroke monsta bike....
and of course Bairdco Industries have been running Opti-2 in
all their 2 stroke race bikes for a long time.
Interlube sponsored the Willow Springs race and continues to be
a sponsor of Motorized Bicycle racing in SoCal.
Pablo
Master Bike Builder & Forum Sponsor
Opti2? Not that I know of, because it's not a racing oil. Real power is not made with low oil mix ratios.
nhssdf4
New Member
I notice Pablo has a chip on his shoulder when it comes to Opti-2, but I have several thousand miles..... HARD miles... Off road, on road, 90% of its life has been at WOT, and not once have i slung a rod, or marred my cylinder walls, and I average over 35mph, with a top speed at 41, clocked by police. So I swear by it, and will never use anything else. There may be "better" stuff out there, but i doubt it. For the performance and the longevity of the motor, this is the best.
biknut
Well-Known Member
Pablo is just observing reality. There are hundreds of professional 2 stroke race teams in the world. If none of them are using opti, there's probably a good reason. If opti was better than the oil they're using I'm sure they would use it.
In addition, look online at forums for professionals that use 2 stroke engines for a living, like lumberjacks, or yard workers. Opti isn't even on their radar.
I do have a couple of customers that own lawn equipment business's. Everytime I ask about using opti, they always advise against it. It just seems odd that in all the world only motor bicycle riders seem to like the stuff, and not many of them.
bairdco
a guy who makes cool bikes
there are many forums with other "professionals" using opti2. i've seen lawnmower, chainsaw, tractor, and others, and all the threads parallel ours. everyone who uses it loves it, and everyone who's never tried it, condemns it.
i dunno why opti2 desn't sponsor any racers. they seem to like having an underground cult status. as far as the HP output, all the bikes i've run on opti are much faster than the ones on any other oil. that's not scientific, but it's good enough for me.
another thing to consider, is factory teams get free stuff. i know many people who use inferior products because it's free, and they get paid to do so. i'm a perfect example. i rode skateboards for Vision in the 80's, and hated almost all of their products. the decks i rode were custom made, i destroyed a pair of their shoes on a weekly basis, and flat-spotted their wheels every other day.
but they sent me truckloads of products, so it never mattered.
i dunno why opti2 desn't sponsor any racers. they seem to like having an underground cult status. as far as the HP output, all the bikes i've run on opti are much faster than the ones on any other oil. that's not scientific, but it's good enough for me.
another thing to consider, is factory teams get free stuff. i know many people who use inferior products because it's free, and they get paid to do so. i'm a perfect example. i rode skateboards for Vision in the 80's, and hated almost all of their products. the decks i rode were custom made, i destroyed a pair of their shoes on a weekly basis, and flat-spotted their wheels every other day.
but they sent me truckloads of products, so it never mattered.
Pablo
Master Bike Builder & Forum Sponsor
I notice Pablo has a chip on his shoulder when it comes to Opti-2, but I have several thousand miles..... HARD miles... Off road, on road, 90% of its life has been at WOT, and not once have i slung a rod, or marred my cylinder walls, and I average over 35mph, with a top speed at 41, clocked by police. So I swear by it, and will never use anything else. There may be "better" stuff out there, but i doubt it. For the performance and the longevity of the motor, this is the best.
No chip at all. I have never said one bad thing about Opti.
Choose ANY brand of 100:1 oil. Mix it truly 100:1. Choose a variety of racing oils. Mix them at 15:1, 20:1, 25:1. Run them all scientifically, in a double blind study on a real calibrated dyno in the SAME engine. I happen to know for a fact which oil ratio would have a higher power output. This does not mean "chip on my shoulder".
Sorry, I just keep an open mind.
DuctTapedGoat
Active Member
So Pablo, what are some of the other 100:1 brands that you know of?
mapbike
Well-Known Member
I've been running Opti2 in all three of my bikes now for a long time, no complaints here, I mix it 1.8oz per Gal.of Fuel and have great results, no smoke, internals stay very clean, all three of my bikes are faster on Opti2 than they were on any other oil I ran in them and each of them was tuned real nice to the mix they were getting.
I dont doubt that there are several other oils out there that are great and will give great results also, I just like the no smoke, plenty of power results I have got with running Opti2 and I will continue to run it in these three engines.
I plan to give another oil a try in my next one just for the heck of it, but will likely end up with the Opti2 in it be the time it's all said and done also, I'm gonna try a Racing oil made by Lucas in my next engine just to see how it performs.
Products : Lucas Oil
I say to each their own on the oil issue, what ever a fella likes and does the job for him is then best for him in his opinion and that will never change no matter what anyone here has to say about it, some of us like to fiddle around and tinker with different things just to have something to do and other sdont, they just like to find something they are happy with and then stick with it no matter what everyone else is doing, thats the way I see all of this oil stuff.
Peace
I dont doubt that there are several other oils out there that are great and will give great results also, I just like the no smoke, plenty of power results I have got with running Opti2 and I will continue to run it in these three engines.
I plan to give another oil a try in my next one just for the heck of it, but will likely end up with the Opti2 in it be the time it's all said and done also, I'm gonna try a Racing oil made by Lucas in my next engine just to see how it performs.
Products : Lucas Oil
I say to each their own on the oil issue, what ever a fella likes and does the job for him is then best for him in his opinion and that will never change no matter what anyone here has to say about it, some of us like to fiddle around and tinker with different things just to have something to do and other sdont, they just like to find something they are happy with and then stick with it no matter what everyone else is doing, thats the way I see all of this oil stuff.
Peace
nhssdf4
New Member
Well, didnt mean chip on the shoulder considering the mix ratio, only about the quality. Back when this thread was 45 pages long, i read the entire thing. And the only thing that I can be certain about is.
1. Opti-2 has done great things in the motorbiking world.
2. Never run Opti-2 in an engine that has been broken in and ridden on conventional 2 stroke oil.
Im just speaking from experience with my bike. Not an expert, just an avid cyclist and from all the different oils that I used my bike has seen the best results with opti-2. It tends to perform above and beyond, no matter what the conditions are. I have had to ride my bike without a muffler before, not only did it suck.... but it was running really lean and I had no way to get home. So I rode it for several ear shattering miles at 3/4 throttle, and when I got home, no damage to my engine. I would like to see any other oil run in my engine super lean and super hot, and not grenade.... Just speaking from experience.
1. Opti-2 has done great things in the motorbiking world.
2. Never run Opti-2 in an engine that has been broken in and ridden on conventional 2 stroke oil.
Im just speaking from experience with my bike. Not an expert, just an avid cyclist and from all the different oils that I used my bike has seen the best results with opti-2. It tends to perform above and beyond, no matter what the conditions are. I have had to ride my bike without a muffler before, not only did it suck.... but it was running really lean and I had no way to get home. So I rode it for several ear shattering miles at 3/4 throttle, and when I got home, no damage to my engine. I would like to see any other oil run in my engine super lean and super hot, and not grenade.... Just speaking from experience.
DuctTapedGoat
Active Member
I've ran every kind of oil but cooking oil in my bike, and after two years of running it, it runs great on Opti2.
Pablo
Master Bike Builder & Forum Sponsor
I've run Opti-2. It ran fine. But I make more power with my special mix.
I've never made any secret that I am an Amsoil dealer, have I? It's in my signature for goodness sake. I harbor no ill will to the company, so please don't try to say that I have or do.
I've never made any secret that I am an Amsoil dealer, have I? It's in my signature for goodness sake. I harbor no ill will to the company, so please don't try to say that I have or do.
nhssdf4
New Member
I indeed do not imply that at all, and i am sorry if i did. I in no means want to step on peoples toes. I would actually like to try yours. I am up for new things, but I know that I have had good fortune with Opti-2.
flybytaco
Metal Molding Madman
I've been into powersports my whole life and never heard about opti till i became a member here. i go to tons of events never once seen a banner nothing, Just the usual banners bel ray, spectro, amsoil, motul never opti2 tho. and luke stens mix comes from stens obviously they are my supliers for my landscaping parts. funny u mentioned that we ran stens mix untill i started working there and had to litterally chisel out the exaust ports on all the 2 strokes. clogged with carbon flowing out a hole the size of a straw lol evr since I switched tem over to the amsoil sabre that problem went away mixed at 80:1. I had the chance to tear down a few of my 80:1 mixed 4stroke machines to decarbonize the heads besides a little gunk on the top of the pistons the insides of the motors were clean and juicey. I dont care what oil you run your gonna get carbon and ash buildup. all I can say is there shouldnt be such thing as a 4 stroke that you have to mix oil, carbon buildup isnt bad on the head of a 2 stroke but when it builds up on the head of the 4 strokes it starts holding the exaust valve open and there goes all the power. wow what a rant its just i've been slammed at work dealing with this issue i have 20 engines i have to tear down sometime this month.
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