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Too cool silver - I love the tapered ends! I'm amazed at how much better you've gotten the front one already - care to take care of the dents in my fenders for me? :p
 

bairdco

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i use a rubber mallet and a thick rubber car floor mat and just pound the dings out.

silverbear, yeah, yours are way different, that's why i call my style "peaked," 'cause they peak in the middle.

so, a day full of wrenchin', sanding, greasing, fitting, and a few outbursts, some wrench throwing, and smoke breakin'...

paint came out really good. still has the original look, without being brown and rusty. my method of "rag painting" works great, as long as you don't do it in the sun (it was 81 degrees here today.) you need the paint wet, not sticky to make it flow.

after wiping it down with paint, i went over it with a green scotch-brite pad, then i soaked it all down with WD40 and rubbed that in. that's a really good trick. WD brings out the color, cleans off dirt and rust, and gives it a cool shine. it pretty much soaks in and/or evaporates, so it's not greasy.

put everything together and the pictures show the results.

the drum brake is waaay cool.

i rode it around for an hour or so, and i gotta say, out all the bikes i've ever had, this one's up near the top. it's the most comfortable, solid bike i've ridden in years. there's no creaks, no rattles, no nothing. it's a nuke-proof dream bike.

can't wait to ruin it by putting the motor on.;)

set the motor in the frame. super tight, but fits fine, except the chain guard ain't workin'. it'll work if i cut it, but man, i just don't want to chop that thing up. dunno when (if ever) i could get another.

so tomorrow, it's motor time, hopefully start on the tank, buy new hardware for the motor, and build some motor mounts.

enjoy the pics. first 2 are before and after. hard to believe it's the same bike.

happy thanksgiving (sorry about what we did to your people, silverbear;))
 

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silverbear

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i use a rubber mallet and a thick rubber car floor mat and just pound the dings out.

silverbear, yeah, yours are way different, that's why i call my style "peaked," 'cause they peak in the middle.

so, a day full of wrenchin', sanding, greasing, fitting, and a few outbursts, some wrench throwing, and smoke breakin'...

paint came out really good. still has the original look, without being brown and rusty. my method of "rag painting" works great, as long as you don't do it in the sun (it was 81 degrees here today.) you need the paint wet, not sticky to make it flow.

after wiping it down with paint, i went over it with a green scotch-brite pad, then i soaked it all down with WD40 and rubbed that in. that's a really good trick. WD brings out the color, cleans off dirt and rust, and gives it a cool shine. it pretty much soaks in and/or evaporates, so it's not greasy.

put everything together and the pictures show the results.

the drum brake is waaay cool.

i rode it around for an hour or so, and i gotta say, out all the bikes i've ever had, this one's up near the top. it's the most comfortable, solid bike i've ridden in years. there's no creaks, no rattles, no nothing. it's a nuke-proof dream bike.

can't wait to ruin it by putting the motor on.;)

set the motor in the frame. super tight, but fits fine, except the chain guard ain't workin'. it'll work if i cut it, but man, i just don't want to chop that thing up. dunno when (if ever) i could get another.

so tomorrow, it's motor time, hopefully start on the tank, buy new hardware for the motor, and build some motor mounts.

enjoy the pics. first 2 are before and after. hard to believe it's the same bike.

happy thanksgiving (sorry about what we did to your people, silverbear;))
That's just amazing what you have done. What a great looking bike. I wouldn't want to cut up that chain guard either. What about just saving it and putting it aside in case you ever want to return the bike to original, find something else smaller and make it blend in with the paint? Whatever guard you use will be noticed as unoriginal by very few people. Most of us have never heard of Colson and will assume whatever you use came with the bike. It is a concession to it's becoming a motorbike, just like the tank you'll give it. If it had gotten a whizzer motor way back when, some things would have gotten changed to make that happen. I wouldn't worry about it too much. You've kept the paint and I never would have guessed it could look so good. Great job!
SB
 

silverbear

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Too cool silver - I love the tapered ends! I'm amazed at how much better you've gotten the front one already - care to take care of the dents in my fenders for me? :p
I think I'll leave that satisfaction to you, thanks anyway. As it is I'll still be tapping and straightening when you're all done and riding around, I suspect. Your springer looks great, by the way.
I got my door/workbench in place today, so that feels like real movement forward. There are no doors on the wood shed and wind can sail right through, but it is a roof over my head and a place to work so I'm grateful for that.
SB
 

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Silver Bear, can't believe your getting the fenders straightened out like that. Shows what a patient man can do. Beautiful.

Hope to get our compressor going this week end.
Thought the main electrical panel was going to have to be replaced but once again my brother got to much information off the internet and we don't have the panel that is causing problems.

Started building the Watsonian side car that BarelyAWake posted. Took a bit to figure out the size but I spent years figuring out the size of pieces of furniture in magazine photos when I restored antique furniture and people wanted a one of a kind piece of furniture made out of old reclaimed wood.

Taking pictures and I'll show every one how I built it. Going to veneer the body with ribbon mahogany and give it a polished varnish boat finish. Have a supplier that sells aluminum sheet with a glued backing that will stick to wood if it is sealed properly.
The company is Outwater Plastics. They have an on line cat. and there is a lot of interesting things in it. Well worth a snoop. Look under sheet goods I think for the metal and veneer.

Chrome plater next week and I'll see how much of the next soc. sec. check they get. This bike is long past the hobby stage and is now an investment. A Bear Stearns investment.

The UPS guy and I are on a first name basis and he is showing me his kids pictures.

Fast"going broke'eddy
 

BarelyAWake

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bairdco - you bike looks... well lets just say you did a perfect job of keeping it's hard earned patina, it really does look great like that! I wonder though - are you going to "age" the motor kit any to match the bike? I've been giving this some thought myself, though I'll be going with new paint obviously - still the motor is gonna look a lil odd all shiny and new outa the box... any tips, thoughts, ideas?

silverbear - I'm psyched you got your workplace set up, gotta have a place to tinker! I'm slowly loosing ground in my basement, the housemate's crap is encroaching my territory and they've got me flanked and outnumbered. We've a woodstove in the corner tho and it's lookin' like a dang fine place to "store" some of their stuff... but for now I've retreated like the coward I may well be, resorting to workin' in my bedroom lol

Don't worry 'bout "falling behind" - so far I've just been doin' the easy stuff, soon however I'll need to rely on others for stuff like welded mounts and the tank and ofc my wallet for parts and whatnot, both of those will surely slow my progress to a crawl (lol?). I'm even gonna get another engine kit despite the fact I have a spare one on the shelf - that's for parts as I do have a daily driver to maintain. I think the Schwinn got jealous of the attention the Rollfast has been getting, it just pissed all over the floor last night (forgot to shut off fuel/stuck float - fixed now meh).

fasteddy - it's great yer building the Watsonian side car, I really am itchin' to see those pics! the more I think on it, the more I want one - it's so much more fitting than a trailer for this bike I'm workin' on! Problem is ofc that I've too much project goin' atm and the roads around here simply don't usually have shoulders, let alone ones big enough for a bike with a sidecar... still, mebbe one day. I hope you saw the link I posted - there's more pics on that site that may help with scale.

Aw gawd... yer veneering it? Thats gonna be soooo gorgeous, I'm a sucker for wood grain! pics Pics PICS - We wants them! :D
 

silverbear

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Silver Bear, can't believe your getting the fenders straightened out like that. Shows what a patient man can do. Beautiful.

Hope to get our compressor going this week end.
Thought the main electrical panel was going to have to be replaced but once again my brother got to much information off the internet and we don't have the panel that is causing problems.

Started building the Watsonian side car that BarelyAWake posted. Took a bit to figure out the size but I spent years figuring out the size of pieces of furniture in magazine photos when I restored antique furniture and people wanted a one of a kind piece of furniture made out of old reclaimed wood.

Taking pictures and I'll show every one how I built it. Going to veneer the body with ribbon mahogany and give it a polished varnish boat finish. Have a supplier that sells aluminum sheet with a glued backing that will stick to wood if it is sealed properly.
The company is Outwater Plastics. They have an on line cat. and there is a lot of interesting things in it. Well worth a snoop. Look under sheet goods I think for the metal and veneer.

Chrome plater next week and I'll see how much of the next soc. sec. check they get. This bike is long past the hobby stage and is now an investment. A Bear Stearns investment.

The UPS guy and I are on a first name basis and he is showing me his kids pictures.

Fast"going broke'eddy
Hey Steve,
Thanks for the encouraging words on the fenders. Your sidecar sounds great and I can hardly wait to see what you're up to. I'll be especially interested in how it is connected to the bike. It is going to look fantastic with your Monark (Monarch?). I forget the year of the Monark, early fifties. Silver King if I remember right. So are you joining us on this great Rustoration Build Off? I hope so. What is the final word on the power supply, gas or electric? If electric will the batteries go in the sidecar? Good luck with the compressor, I sure appreciated my little compressor back home, just a three horse, but still nice for blowing up tires and cleaning parts. I know what you mean about the cash register continually ringing up sales. It may seem extravagant, but this is something you have anticipated for a long time and it isn't one build of many, but THE BUILD and will be like no other. Besides, you deserve it, Bud. It will be the standout bike at the Sudbury ride in Ontario next summer. That sidecar alone will be a show stopper.
SB
 

silverbear

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It is too cold and blustery today to work long in the wood shed, so I began on the V8 gas tank. Photos below. I think I'm going to make a second tank from a slightly smaller can to see which fits and looks best, perhaps this one from a can of beans so that it fits in with the gas theme... heh heh. Anyway, I included the tools used which turned out to be very simple and quick. For the gas line and vent holes I used an awl and for the filler tube opening I first drilled a pilot hole and followed with a cone shaped grinding stone affixed to the drill. That turned out to be a perfect tool making a perfect hole and doing it quickly. The filler tube is a male threaded 3/4" copper fitting as used in plumbing and the cap is a brass 3/4" hose cap, both purchased at Lowe's. The air vent is a short section of copper tubing, the smallest size Lowe's had (I think 1/4") and temporarily I have the same below where the gas line will go. I can't seem to locate the brass fuel shut off valve I intend to use, so for not it is a piece of copper tubing so that I can visualize how things will look and fit. I have yet to do the silver soldering to seal things up. I'll be on the lookout for a small Coleman type of copper funnel since the opening is on the small side. I don't know yet about the best way to mount it to the bike. I guess i will go back to the Apple Juice Tank thread to see just what Rockenstein did. I have a question. Is there a need to treat the inside of one of these tanks with a sealer to guard against rust? Is so, where can one buy just the sealer? I don't want or need a whole gas tank restoration kit. Anyone know? I have not yet thought far enough along to decide if the tank should be clear coated and left alone, painted to match the bike color (probably a cobalt blue) or covered in black leather. Suggestions are welcome. Thanks,
SB
 

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i was thinking of aging the motor, but the dirt and grease should do that on it's own in a month or so. plus, the chrome on the wheels, cranks, handlebars, etc. is really good, so the motor doesn't look out of place. except for being the only piece of foreign junk on a 70 year old american classic.:)

it's crazy how this started out, you get a bike, i get a bike, silverbear's still tapping away on his bike, and now, i can't sleep at night because i keep thinking up crazy things to do to mine. like, how am i gonna hook up my vintage speedometer since the drum brake hub is so big the drive gear won't hit the spokes? i figured out a way to do that about 3am. almost got out of bed to go look at the bike.

my first two bikes were just bikes with motors, y'know? now i'm trying to figure out how good a mapp gas torch will braze steel...

now i'm gonna go work on it all day again...
 

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BarleyAWake, I'm taking pictures as I go. When I get a chance I'll put them on. Saw the link and used it to figure out the scale. Thank you it sure helped.
I'm more at home with wood than metal.

Yep, I remember the roads in Maine. Not much you can do with a 6in shoulder beside a 3ft deep ditch next to a road that is two carts wide.

Silver Bear, it's going to be electric. Just found out that 8 guys were grabbed for having gas motors on thier bikes in BC's capital. The fine is $5,000 and 2 years in jail and good luck paying for the insurance for the rest of your life. The charge is unlicenced, uninsured, unregistered motor vehicle on the road. They may get your licence as well.

Batteries are going in the side car. Don't know if I'll be part of the build off but I'll work along and keep in touch as I go.

Bairdco, I did get up at 2:30 this morning and go out to the garage to check something out.
Dont you just love it!

Steve.
 

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i'm possessed by this bike. it's seriously Christine. it tells me what it wants, and i do it. the blood red color fits it's personality...

so i've been buggin' Lord Norman off and on about his "backwards engine" for the last few weeks, and he claims it works, so after getting the lowdown, i decided to go for it.

had to flip the head, the jug, and the piston, which is easy, peasy, made in chinese-y, then i had to match the transfer ports on the case. took me 15 minutes with a dremel, so far so good.

had to take a break, because my other bike was feeling neglected, so i rode to Mcfadden-Dale hardware to get bolts and stuff, but they were closed. since when do industrial fastener warehouses get a 4 day weekend? guess it's ace hardware for some paint stripper and stuff.

anyway...

got back home, test fitted the engine, and then went to work on the exhaust pipe. stripped all the paint, then clamped a pipe to my roomates boat trailer, rammed it into the exhaust, and fired up the map gas torch. heated, bent, smoked some cigarettes, drank a few beers, and the pictures show the fruits of my labor.

i gotta fab an offset intake, which doesn't matter much, since the one i got with my new motor wasn't finished, and the carb wouldn't fit on it anyway.

also, with the added clearance, i think i can make the chainguard fit.

needless to say, i'm very happy with the way this bike is turning out. it's a freakin' work of art...
 

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silverbear

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i'm possessed by this bike. it's seriously Christine. it tells me what it wants, and i do it. the blood red color fits it's personality...

so i've been buggin' Norm off and on about his "backwards engine" for the last few weeks, and he claims it works, so after getting the lowdown, i decided to go for it.

had to flip the head, the jug, and the piston, which is easy, peasy, made in chinese-y, then i had to match the transfer ports on the case. took me 15 minutes with a dremel, so far so good.

had to take a break, because my other bike was feeling neglected, so i rode to Mcfadden-Dale hardware to get bolts and stuff, but they were closed. since when do industrial fastener warehouses get a 4 day weekend? guess it's ace hardware for some paint stripper and stuff.

anyway...

got back home, test fitted the engine, and then went to work on the exhaust pipe. stripped all the paint, then clamped a pipe to my roomates boat trailer, rammed it into the exhaust, and fired up the map gas torch. heated, bent, smoked some cigarettes, drank a few beers, and the pictures show the fruits of my labor.

i gotta fab an offset intake, which doesn't matter much, since the one i got with my new motor wasn't finished, and the carb wouldn't fit on it anyway.

also, with the added clearance, i think i can make the chainguard fit.

needless to say, i'm very happy with the way this bike is turning out. it's a freakin' work of art...
Geez, Louise! Who'da thunk it! Lookit' that thing! I love the exhaust coming out the way it aught to. And the line of the exhaust repeats the line of the top bar... the whole bike has very satisfying lines to it. You're right, it is a serious work of art. And you get to keep the chain guard! Yeah, Chrisine has come alive... spooky is what it is.
SB
 

silverbear

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BarleyAWake, I'm taking pictures as I go. When I get a chance I'll put them on. Saw the link and used it to figure out the scale. Thank you it sure helped.
I'm more at home with wood than metal.

Yep, I remember the roads in Maine. Not much you can do with a 6in shoulder beside a 3ft deep ditch next to a road that is two carts wide.

Silver Bear, it's going to be electric. Just found out that 8 guys were grabbed for having gas motors on thier bikes in BC's capital. The fine is $5,000 and 2 years in jail and good luck paying for the insurance for the rest of your life. The charge is unlicenced, uninsured, unregistered motor vehicle on the road. They may get your licence as well.

Batteries are going in the side car. Don't know if I'll be part of the build off but I'll work along and keep in touch as I go.

Bairdco, I did get up at 2:30 this morning and go out to the garage to check something out.
Dont you just love it!

Steve.
Good grief, it sounds like the crimebuster BC bureaucrats are a little gung ho in dealing with motorbicycle criminals. Jail? $5,000.00? I hope this gets the public riled up and some serious media attention. It isn't right. Going electric on a heavy cruiser ups the ante on costs for sure. I hate to think about it. What kind of electric setup are you picturing? Front hub motor? I know you'll make the best of it. So electric is OK with the petty tyrants in authority?
SB
 

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Silver Bear, the problem in this province is the province owns the insurace company. It's a Crown Corporation so anything that may cost them money is outlawed. They issue vehicle licences at the insurance co. when you pay your insuance.

When the Federal government was drawing up rules for motor bikes the only two groups to show up to lobby for a voice in what was written up were Ford and ICBC{Insurance Corporation of British Columbia}. They were making sure every thing went thier way.

You can have a moped if the Feds have approved it. You just can't make one.
No outrage. People don't fight in this province because the other party that would take over is even worse than this bunch. They are left wing anti business types who bankrupt the province every time they get in.

Our Premier{Govenor} is Gorden Campbell or as I call him Green Gordy. He is issuing laws left and right to ensure that he is remembered as the man who saved Canada in the global warming issue so you can be sure that a motor bike driven by a happy times is not happening in the perfect province. This is why I want to move to the east coast.

The hub motor and a top of the line battery in Vancouver at EBikes, a highly thought of electric bike company is all told about $1,500. That is slowing up my plans a whole lot. They are about 35 miles away and are really helpful. Where ever I go I'll be legal and I just don't want to watch my bike going down the road on the back of a tow truck being confiscated.

I would like to mount it on the side car. Workman wheels on the bike and the hub and brake on the car. Here every wheel has to have a brake. That will give me 20 mph and a 20 mile range. Can't be faster than 20 mph.

The boat style nose on the Watsonian is giving me fits but I think I've got it. I'll cut out the bottom tomorrow and see if I can get the nose and the seating area framed in. Know what I want to do but not sure it will work. I am taking measurements as I go so if it works I can pass on what I've learned. If it doesn't work I'll burn the evidence and claim I have no knowledge of what happened.

I'll stop and figure out how to set up a sight so that I can get pictures where people can see them. Tegan will help but the kid is such a whiz that her hands are a blur while she tells me how to do it. They look like they are caught in a tornado.

Steve.
 

bairdco

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... And the line of the exhaust repeats the line of the top bar... the whole bike has very satisfying lines to it.
SB
yup. the weird thing about that, is i was trying to make the pipe totally straight, but my torch ran out. so i threw the pipe in the grass and hosed it down to cool it, and when i put it on the bike, it matched right up.

i'm telling you, this bike is alive...:eek:
 

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i'm possessed by this bike. it's seriously Christine. it tells me what it wants, and i do it. the blood red color fits it's personality...
o_O

Possession and the resultant blood sacrifice violates the spirit of the build off - only exorcise(d) bikes are allowed. Teamwork is one thing, but this is out of control.

:D

It's really comin' together bairdco - you continue to surprise with yer ingenuity, I never anticipated the reversed cylinder! It looks great and really tidies up the stock exhaust! Lookin' forward to seein' what you concoct for an intake... Ya know, given the bike's size it outa scream if ya gear it right even dispite it's old-school weight.
 
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silverbear

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Silver Bear, the problem in this province is the province owns the insurace company. It's a Crown Corporation so anything that may cost them money is outlawed. They issue vehicle licences at the insurance co. when you pay your insuance.

When the Federal government was drawing up rules for motor bikes the only two groups to show up to lobby for a voice in what was written up were Ford and ICBC{Insurance Corporation of British Columbia}. They were making sure every thing went thier way.

You can have a moped if the Feds have approved it. You just can't make one.
No outrage. People don't fight in this province because the other party that would take over is even worse than this bunch. They are left wing anti business types who bankrupt the province every time they get in.

Our Premier{Govenor} is Gorden Campbell or as I call him Green Gordy. He is issuing laws left and right to ensure that he is remembered as the man who saved Canada in the global warming issue so you can be sure that a motor bike driven by a happy times is not happening in the perfect province. This is why I want to move to the east coast.

The hub motor and a top of the line battery in Vancouver at EBikes, a highly thought of electric bike company is all told about $1,500. That is slowing up my plans a whole lot. They are about 35 miles away and are really helpful. Where ever I go I'll be legal and I just don't want to watch my bike going down the road on the back of a tow truck being confiscated.

I would like to mount it on the side car. Workman wheels on the bike and the hub and brake on the car. Here every wheel has to have a brake. That will give me 20 mph and a 20 mile range. Can't be faster than 20 mph.

The boat style nose on the Watsonian is giving me fits but I think I've got it. I'll cut out the bottom tomorrow and see if I can get the nose and the seating area framed in. Know what I want to do but not sure it will work. I am taking measurements as I go so if it works I can pass on what I've learned. If it doesn't work I'll burn the evidence and claim I have no knowledge of what happened.

I'll stop and figure out how to set up a sight so that I can get pictures where people can see them. Tegan will help but the kid is such a whiz that her hands are a blur while she tells me how to do it. They look like they are caught in a tornado.

Steve.
Well, I think it's too bad about BC's policy. You can ride around in a Hummer, though, right? Ah well, I guess there are prices to pay for living in such a beautiful place. So are you really thinking of moving to the east coast? Are they less restrictive in the east?
$1,500 is a lot of money for electric motor and batteries. Does that also require licensing and insurance? In spite of the obstacles your Monarch and sidecar are going to be outstanding. I'll look forward to photos of both projects.
Today I finished stripping both fenders and the last paint from the chain guard. Tomorrow I want to finish stripping the frame, the fender guards and the little in frame tank it came with. I'm hoping to get the frame primed in a few days and maybe give it a coat of dark blue. I think I'll go with the dupli color engine enamel, which is dark but not a cobalt. I'm also thinking of doing some trim work in black on the fenders. Can't decide on tires. The black wall that came with the Worksman front wheel is nice, but I could use that tire on the 50 Schwinn straightbar Hornet back in Minnesota and use either white walls or all white tires on this Elgin. How do you think the all white's would look with a dark colored paint job? I wish I could visualize it. Or maybe I should just get another black wall for the rear wheel. I'd appreciate your opinion. In a week I hope to be ready for the silver solder repair work (after everything is straight and dents done as well as I can get them) and then paint the fenders and guards. That done I can start putting it all together. I'm going to pull the motor from my 63 American, paint it black and give it to the Elgin. It is a HT automatic with pull start, is now broken in and runs great. Once the Elgin is done I'll strip the American down to bare metal for a new paint job, which it really needs. Lots to do. Tomorrow is going to be close to 60 degrees so a nice mountain ride is in order. Take care, Bud.
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Silver Bear, you can drive/ride anything with a gas motor as long as you didn't build it on a bike.

Took me a half hr on the the Prince Edward Island site just to find out that the motor bike motor limit is 49cc and that is Federal
There was one story about the motor cycle permit road test. They give you one way headphones so they can tell you where to turn and the road test is a two block pattern around the city hall.
The guy writing the story said the only person known to fail didn't put his foot down at a stop sign.
Seems over 50cc, you add lights/signals and dot tires and you are a motorcycle.

E-bikes are free of any requirements other than a licence and light at night.

When I stop into see you I will be on my way to PEI or on my way back. Lovely here but to restrictive and expensive. A $30,000 house there could be over a million here. Depending on where it is.

One house on the net has 2 acres with a 2 story house, two or three small out buildings/garages and a very large barn just off a main highway in the middle of the island. Price is $24,900. Needs fixing up I'm sure but nothing major that I can see in the photos.

The side car is giving me fits. What works in metal doesn't with wood. Think it will be interesting none the less when I'm finished.

Blue and black are age correct for the bike.I'm the wrong one to ask about white tires.
I'm a sucker for them though I have heard that the Felt tires are the only ones to buy. I'd sure have them.
Never was a white side wall fan.

Can you body fill any dents left in the fender?

Have a great ride.

Steve.
 

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silverbear, white tires would look cool, but every bike i've seen with them get "chain rub" and the sidewall gets all streaked black with grease. if you don't care, or don't mind cleaning them all the time (carb cleaner works great) then go for it.

personally, i'd stay with blackwalls. less maintenance and a lot more options for different tires.

i didn't get much done today. the places i need hardware and metal are closed.

mocked up a few tank designs outta cardboard, but i don't like any of them. the frame's so small in there, i got a lot of figuring to do, in less i want a 12oz. tank. i'd like to be able to ride more than ten miles...

if i could find the original rear rack, i could go with an under-rack style tank, but good luck trying to locate one.

i think i'm just gonna spend the weekend goofing off (some more) and wait till monday, when i can get some stuff...
 

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Hmm... think there's a market for springer wind-chimes?



After much wire brushing and detail cleanup with a Dremel, I decided to just throw a quick coat of sandable primer on the frame & fork. Not only to help tell the difference between surface discoloration and actual pits & scrapes, but as I live right next to the ocean it'll surface rust in less than 24 hours... which I forgot so I needed to go over it again blarg... It's a bit of a challenge gettin' a good, uniform coat with gusty winds, scattered rain showers and while it's about 35 degrees... freakin' housemates whining about paint smell... I should pop a can of carb cleaner in the basement lol

I was actually planning on doing a bit of fill work using 'Plastic Metal' (a quick and easy bondo product, silverbear's JBweld fill is prolly better) but as it turns out the pitting is almost nonexistent. The brazing is a lil sloppy so I'll prolly touch that up before I paint for real. This coat is only to protect it from the salt air and for transport, as now it's off to work to get fitted for a tank.



After much discussion we've agreed that a regular mild steel tank is the route we're gonna take, both aluminum and stainless are a ***** to keep painted, but it's really a matter of welding skill - he's taking this seriously and mentioned the tank is what everyone looks at and mild steel is what he's most comfortable with. However - we do a LOT of metal fabrication at work so my choices in gauge and alloy are abundant, I figure this tank to be a prototype and if it's not good enough for whatever reason, we'll just make another. He's been going on about wanting to get an English Wheel (english wheel - Google Product Search) but I told him he's out of his mind and a flat tank is fine lol



I'm thinkin' about ordering these on Monday, they're about $70ish each - any feedback regarding a reputable dealer and/or problems with them would be greatly appreciated ;)

Sturmey Archer S30 X-RD3 3-Speed Drum Brake Hub - Google Product Search


Sturmey Archer Dynamo Drum Brake Front Hub 36H - Google Product Search (6v DC)
 
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