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2door

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I watched my share of TV but was never addicted. I too was the outdoor type. I was raised in south Florida. We lived on the edge of the Everglades so snake hunting was one of my favorite pastimes. Camping in the Glades was too. Fresh water fishing one of my all time favorite things. Large mouth bass hauled out of a canal.....oh yeah!
We had the ocean too and my Dad always had boats when I was growing up. Never a water skier, that was for tourists, but fishing and scuba diving. Much better than TV.

Still, Saturday mornings or after school offered some television that I liked. It was at least a diversion on bad weather days.

Tom
 

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Sounds like a great place to be a kid,Tom, but then being a kid is great.
Ludwig, I always liked Monty Python, but the women on Benny Hill put him
way in front of the Python crew. I'd have given a pretty penny to hang out
in that dressing room.
 

silverbear

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My favorite show after school was Robin Hood starring Richard Greene.
Still remember the theme song, too...

Robin Hood, Robin Hood, riding through the glen (trumpets tootle)
Robin Hood, Robin Hood, with his band of men.
Feared by the bad, loved by the good!
Robin Hood, Robin Hood, Robin Hood...(more tootling trumpets)

Lady Marian was a babe, but nothing compared to Sheena, Queen of the jungle. (Be still my beating heart).

Yes, Tinsmith, I am still in love with Loretta Young.
SB
 

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We had our first TV in the fall 1950. I don't know why the decision was made but the first clue it was coming is when I came home from school and and my younger brother met me at the end of the driveway with the breathless news that they were putting a TV antenna on our roof. We lived in what was then country and there were 10 acres in front of the house so you couldn't much from the road.

Sure enough when we got to the house the installers were just putting their ladder away. Having a television in those days was an incredible luxury. People would have an antenna installed on their roofs just so they could look good and they didn't own a TV. That seems strange today but in those days so soon after the war just getting a new car was something special.

The TV arrived a few days latter and my parents were shown how to tune the dials for the contrast to get rid of the snow that so often showed up on the screen due to weather interference and the weak signal.

My parents would invite the neighbours over to watch it when something special came up.

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The first TV I remember was my grandmother's. It had a round screen, maybe 10" diameter and it was in a gigantic wooden cabinet. Everything was in living black and white (shades of grey) and the sound was scratchy. I remember being scared out of my wits by a show about a Geni from a magic lamp. He was scary.

I also remember the first color TV I ever saw. My Aunt's. Not what you'd call 'Hi-Def'. It had color bands. Blue for the sky, green for trees and a weird flesh color for people's faces.
You had to constantly get up and adjust the color to get the bands to line up where they were supposed to be. Seems funny now but back then it was state-of-the-art. The problem is at the time most TV shows were broadcast in black and white. Later, as the networks started showing color programs a new TV was the only way to see them like they were supposed to be seen. We've come a long way, baby.

Who remembers aluminum foil on rabbit ears to get better reception?

Tom
 

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Our first TV was big. I want to say 21" with a genuine walnut cabinet and it may have come from my uncle who was an electronics wizard and had an appliance store. I have to ask Mom if she remembers who they got it from. I know that Uncle Vic came by to tune it up more than once. He was an honest to goodness character and an inventive wizard.
We were the only kids with a bath tub sized destroyer that would blow up when it was shot at with a torpedo from the accompanying sub. All done with with a bunch of mouse traps. Mother was thrilled to say the least.

Rabbit ears and every channel had it's own setting on them. Wide spread for one channel close together for the next one but the one side had to be down half way and the other side stretched out to the maximum.
When that failed there was indeed aluminum foil. Sometimes on the tip and then maybe the middle and all sorts of shapes and sizes. Then there were the rabbit ears that had the loop in the middle and a knob and dial so you could turn it to different angles and had all the fancy shapes on the ears that you were assured would bring in every channel known.

Bed springs in the attic had their champions as well. When I worked for the auctioneer in N.Y. it wasn't uncommon to still find them hanging there and upon occasion still hooked up to the TV.

I believe we our first colour TV came in the mid 60's and with a remote channel changer other than my brother and I. I want to say it had a magic eye which was a tiny red light that was just below the channel changer and you had to point the channel changer at it before it would work. The dial had 23 channels on it and maybe half of them worked since there weren't that many channels.

Any of you old fellas remember when the paint on the channel numbers wore off and you had to remember what channel the program you had watched was on so you could count to the next channel you wanted.
How about waiting for the Friday or Saturday paper so you could get the new TV guide that the newspaper printed. The TV Guide cost a quarter and your parents wouldn't pay it because the newspaper had one in it.

Glorious days indeed.

Steve.
 

Otero

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Didn't worry much about the channel numbers what with only 2 channels;
no need for a guide, we'd memorized all the programs.
 

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Our first television was a valve device, every now and again it had to struck firmly to wake it up, and the rotary channel selector would also go wrong. I think it had carbon build up on the contacts, and it had to be rotated vigorously twice a night.

Looking back, I can't help wondering if it was actually to wind some sort of clockwork up.
 

silverbear

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You guys have brought back some memories of childhood for sure. It was a brave new world of rocket ships and television, X-rays and scientific wonders. Before television there was the wonder of radio and as a little fellow I recall evenings spent around a large wooden radio cabinet which had a green "eye" that came on when the radio was turned on. Certain evenings of the week had favorite programs, some of which were different for us kids than for our parents and grand parents. Amos & Andy we all liked. My brother and I would try to imitate their Negro voices. "Hello dere, Andy" and "how ya doin' Kingfish?"

I can still see in my mind's eye my sweet Indian grandmother (we kids called her "Da") in her rocking chair with some kind of hand work in darning socks or knitting or needlepoint and nearby my grandfather in his old Morris chair smoking his cigarettes, purposely rolled one handed with great dexterity since he knew little boys were studying his performance. Velvet tobacco in a can. He had been a child laborer in a cigar factory as a little fellow in Ottumwa, Iowa and always seemed to me a dangerous man, quiet and impeccable in how he did things. "Wa" became a machinist as a grownup and a licensed boilermaker, proud Mason, father and grandpa. One of sixteen children he had quit school in the third grade to go to work and by the time I knew him owned his own home and an automobile, was respected by those who knew him as the foreman at Hartzog Wonder Drill and was a self made man. I still dream him all these years later, me watching him sharpen his straightedge razor on a wide leather strop, back and forth with light catching on the deadly blade... his stopping momentarily, looking down at me and saying "...if you were my boy", clearly implying that the leather strop would find a home on my backside at the slightest infraction. His idea of grand parenting had to do with fear and his quiet word was law. My grandparents were the yin and yang of childhood; she the sweet and he the sour, he the impending storm and she the safe harbor.

Anyway, in the time we lived with them evenings drew us together around the radio and as willing participants we joined in as attentive listeners... hearing the voice of Orson Welles as "The Shadow" (Lamont Cranston), the yapping sled dog team of Sgt. Preston of the Yukon commanding his team with such words as "...on you huskies" and the command to get going by yelling out "mush" which I later learned was some radio show writer's faulty guesswork. "Hike" is the actual command. But no matter, we heard dogs and the wind and could imagine the blowing snow and white, frozen landscape. Along with the radio actors and sound effects people we in radio land were participants doing our part to provide the "video" part of the presentation. Somehow it was more real than television. Sometimes I wonder if television was a step forwards or a step back. It is like the difference between reading the book or watching the movie version of the same story. They each have their place, except for those who no longer read.
Coffee cup is empty and so am I.
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2door

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SB, I like the old radio shows so much I buy them on CD, like audio books, and listen to them in my shop. I have several collections, 'The Shadow', 'Crime Dramas' with Nero Wolf, Dragnet, and other radio detective classics. I have a couple of the old comedies, Burns & Allen, Life of Riley, Jack Benny, but they remind me of today's sitcoms with the phoney laugh track and I don't enjoy them as much.

I also agree that the radio sound effects folks were masters of deception but brought the stories alive and eliminated the need to 'see' what was going on. You could easily imagine every scene just by the convincing sounds you heard and the words of a well spoken narrator.

I don't watch any television. If not for Char, my wife, the only reason I'd own a TV is to watch movies on DVDs. I'd cancel my cable subscription today if she didn't like her shows.
But, my book collection is getting out of hand. I average reading three books a week, some I buy, some from the library. And like a good movie, I can read a good book multiple times and enjoy it even knowing what's going to happen.

Tom
 

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Good discussion fellas. I wonder how accurate our memories are sometimes, but I know that for the most part they are great, and those not so good memories are few and rarely pop up for me. I remember sitting in front of my grandparents big console radio with short wave and pull open the front and a record player for the 78 rpm big band records. I still listen to most sports on the radio, and lots of music.

Thanks for good reading!!
Dan
 

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The old cabinet radios with short wave. Thanks Dan, I'd forgotten about those. My grandmother gave me one when I was about 14 and it wound up at Uncle Vic's store being repaired. It opened the world for me when I could hear radio stations in foreign languages as I went around the dial at night. When an English speaking station was found there was always the careful turning back and forth of the dial until it came in as clear as possible.

We lived in an era of amazing new things that will never be seen again.

Steve.
 

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A pilot, flying over New Guinea, ran out of fuel and had to bale out. Fortunately, he landed among friendly people, who told him, "We-ooooowwoowwoo-'ll take -eeeeee-care of you-ooowwwwoowwwooooo."

He was surprised. He said, "You speak English? How can you do that, so far from anywhere?" "Oh, we learned it from Britain's World Service on Fast Eddy's old ra-wooowooowwoooo-dio."
 

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You can still buy shortwave radios and sling a long wire over a tree. Tune in BBC and everything else out there.

I still do it, it's still there.

WTF was anyone doing tinfoil on rabbit ears? Just put any cheap antenna on the roof, it worked much better than that kluge.
 

2door

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Philco. That's who made the big wooden cabinet radio I remember. Bill Cosby once did a routine about them: "It had 187 knobs of which only two worked. Off, on, volume and the station selector. It took about eight days to warm up"

The one I recall had a lighted circular dial with a pointer and vague numbers and some symbols that no one could decipher. You just turned the dial until you got something. WLS out of Chicago was probably one of the strongest stations. Big band music or forigen stations that were neat but I didn't know what they were talking about. I know some of it was German and some Spanish.

Then you'd fine, 'The Shadow' and for the next half hour you'd sit transfixed on watching the dial and seeing the story unfold before you. Great stuff, great memories. I'm glad I'm my age and can remember things like that.

On a similar note; My wife has been going through her recently deceased Mom's personal possesions and came home today with some things she had as a child. A piggy bank, real ceramic, no way to get the coins out except to break it, or use a knife through the coin slot. She remembers her Dad and her laying on the living room floor getting quarters out. She says she must have been five or six years old. The bank still had several quaters in it. One was a 1957 vintage; she was 2 years old. Another was dated 1964.

She also found a complete set of 'Pick-up Stix' still in the original cylindrical container with the game instructions with a copyright date of 1937. We played a couple of games this afternoon. That brought back some memories.

My in-law's house is full of things that will be significant to folks my age. I'll let you know what else we find.

Tom