What's your most desirable accessory for a China Girl Motorized Bicycle?
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biknut
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Re: What's your most desirable accessory for a China Girl?
I have to agree with you. The Chinese bearings are crap. I notice the new Flying Horse motors advertise they come with Japanese bearings.
I have to agree with you. The Chinese bearings are crap. I notice the new Flying Horse motors advertise they come with Japanese bearings.
Basement Cat
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Re: What's your most desirable accessory for a China Girl?
A balanced crankshaft is what I want most.
A balanced crankshaft is what I want most.
biknut
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Yeah I think that should be high on the list too, but pretty advanced for al lot of people.
Yeah I think that should be high on the list too, but pretty advanced for al lot of people.
motor_bike_fanatic
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Re: What's your most desirable accessory for a China Girl?
a tach and a fuel gauge.
a tach and a fuel gauge.
mapbike
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I agree 100% on the bearings and a better balanced crank assembly.
I never had one of these engines back when they had the bronze bushing for the upper bearing instead of the caged needle bearing like they do now, but it seems I have read where people had said the engines with the bushings were better balanced, if that is true it seems that maybe removing some material from the cranks counter weights opposite the rod journal might help the balance since the piston/pin area is lighter now than it was with the bushing.....Shrug?
I agree 100% on the bearings and a better balanced crank assembly.
I never had one of these engines back when they had the bronze bushing for the upper bearing instead of the caged needle bearing like they do now, but it seems I have read where people had said the engines with the bushings were better balanced, if that is true it seems that maybe removing some material from the cranks counter weights opposite the rod journal might help the balance since the piston/pin area is lighter now than it was with the bushing.....Shrug?
biknut
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Re: What's your most desirable accessory for a China Girl?
All the cranks I've checked needed heavier weight on the counter weight side.
All the cranks I've checked needed heavier weight on the counter weight side.
The_Aleman
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My first HT was a bushing engine back in '06. It was by far the worst engine I had. Very unbalanced, and it grenaded when I tried to hit 30.
My first HT was a bushing engine back in '06. It was by far the worst engine I had. Very unbalanced, and it grenaded when I tried to hit 30.
biknut
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Sounds a lot like my X80 motor.
Sounds a lot like my X80 motor.
mapbike
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Thats good to know, I was just guessing based on something I remember reading on here a long time ago, but then again I may have it mixed up and maybe whoever it was said what you did about needing more weight on the counter weight side.
Thats good to know, I was just guessing based on something I remember reading on here a long time ago, but then again I may have it mixed up and maybe whoever it was said what you did about needing more weight on the counter weight side.
All the cranks I've checked needed heavier weight on the counter weight side.
mapbike
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Well, I,ve never had a bushing engine so I have no experience with them, I remember some debate in the past about them and in the midst of one of the debates is where I thought I remembered someone mentioning the '' better balance '' thing, may be hog wash as you sorta said here, I'm glad we have the needle bearing instead on the bushing.
Peace, Map
Well, I,ve never had a bushing engine so I have no experience with them, I remember some debate in the past about them and in the midst of one of the debates is where I thought I remembered someone mentioning the '' better balance '' thing, may be hog wash as you sorta said here, I'm glad we have the needle bearing instead on the bushing.
Peace, Map
moonerdizzle
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I prefer bushings for one reason. Most bushings slowly fail and let you know "hey! I'm old and wore out . Replace me before I ruin your day."
I prefer bushings for one reason. Most bushings slowly fail and let you know "hey! I'm old and wore out . Replace me before I ruin your day."
mapbike
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Yeah I kinda figured the worn bushing would start knocking on the top end before it completely failed which would be a fair warning that it needed to be replaced.
But like I said I have no experience with bushings in these engines so I can't swear to anything concerning how they are/were, I figured they got away from them because they had a very short life in these engines and were causing loads of failures
Map
Yeah I kinda figured the worn bushing would start knocking on the top end before it completely failed which would be a fair warning that it needed to be replaced.
But like I said I have no experience with bushings in these engines so I can't swear to anything concerning how they are/were, I figured they got away from them because they had a very short life in these engines and were causing loads of failures
Map
The_Aleman
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They might knock stock. HTs don't like being revved too high without some work. From my XP anyway.
They might knock stock. HTs don't like being revved too high without some work. From my XP anyway.
Texhun
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I lost my first two HT's because of those dumb needle bearings on the wrist pin. On my current engine I replaced the wrist-pin needle bearing with a bushing. Mapbike this is by far the best engine I've had! It's smoother and better balanced, this might sound a little off but it's also got way more power too! I run this engine way harder than the first two and it's gone twice the distance of the first two engines combined. I'm all for bushings in these engines. I wanna try doing a crank job on it sometime, seems like it just might be worth it. Just for the guys wondering, it's the K-80 from BGF, the first two were PK-80's also from BGF. Ironic isn't it?
I lost my first two HT's because of those dumb needle bearings on the wrist pin. On my current engine I replaced the wrist-pin needle bearing with a bushing. Mapbike this is by far the best engine I've had! It's smoother and better balanced, this might sound a little off but it's also got way more power too! I run this engine way harder than the first two and it's gone twice the distance of the first two engines combined. I'm all for bushings in these engines. I wanna try doing a crank job on it sometime, seems like it just might be worth it. Just for the guys wondering, it's the K-80 from BGF, the first two were PK-80's also from BGF. Ironic isn't it?
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mapbike
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Re: What's your most desirable accessory for a China Girl?
Texhun
Did you machine the bushing yourself?
Or did you find a source for them?
Peace, Map
Texhun
Did you machine the bushing yourself?
Or did you find a source for them?
Peace, Map
I lost my first two HT's because of those dumb needle bearings on the wrist pin. On my current engine I replaced the wrist-pin needle bearing with a bushing. Mapbike this is by far the best engine I've had! It's smoother and better balanced, this might sound a little off but it's also got way more power too! I run this engine way harder than the first two and it's gone twice the distance of the first two engines combined. I'm all for bushings in these engines. I wanna try doing a crank job on it sometime, seems like it just might be worth it. Just for the guys wondering, it's the K-80 from BGF. Ironic isn't it?