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harry76

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Thanks msrfan. If i made the holes bigger it may look better but i left a fair bit of meat to be on the safeside.

Last night i got to my mates to do a little welding, i got a bit done.

I partly welded my clutch arm, when i know its right, ill finish welding it, and also drill lightening holes in it and weld tubes in it to match the pulley.







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harry76

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I also got my tank mounted and tank tacked, i will get someone i know to tig weld it...







Im using this petcock but i will need to get it soldered on, i will use coppoer fuel line



 

harry76

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I cut the rear triangle to clear the sheave. I will finish welding it with my brothers gas mig welder, and blend in those joins a lot better.... as well as the engine mounts etc, when i know everything is where it should be....








 

Cam Nz

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Bro, that is so cool!

I love the feeling when your advancing in leaps and bounds huh!

So you are going for the belt clutch, operated by foot?

Ill update my thread with pics, as im using the same system, and hopefully ill be near the stage you are at soon, im also going for foot brake as well.

I have to say your fabrication skills are really good dude, am loving your work, as a thought, on the fuel system - i think those glass fuel filter/bowl's look really oldschool, expecially with the copper, im after one myself.

So you know the gear ratio?

Cheers, Cam.
 

harry76

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Thanks man.

The clutch arm will be operated by a hand lever on the tank. I will need to weld a bent (to avoid my muffler) rod/shaft to the clutch arm, and mount a gate with notches in it on the tank. Msrfan posted a pic earlier in tis thread showing one on his bike.

I gotta go back to the online calculator to decide my jackshaft pulley sizes.

Fuel bowl? Like this one? I was gonna use it for the Indian but ill use it on here...

 

Cam Nz

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Ya thats the one, they are cool aye?

Id say that ratios pretty good dude, but i suppose the calculator will tell us

Love to get my hands on some of those forks, or make them
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harry76

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You can buy a new set off Ebay for around $150 if i recall correctly. But supposedly they need to be strengthened. Theres threads on here about it.

Have a look at Goldys BSA thread, he made forks (different to these) and they were nice. Or surely it couldnt be too hard to fab up a set of these.

Just reaslised our digital camera has video. So as soon as i work it out ill post a pic of the motor running....
 

harry76

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Thanks.

I drilled out my clutch arm, i will just need to sleeve the hole with tube for strength. I will also drill lightening holes for looks and sleeve them too. And i will have a few different holes to mount my idler pulley. Its not as heavy as ii thought and i quite like it so i think its staying.

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It lines up quite well...



And my mockup mop handle shifter to give you some idea. The handle did move a little but you get the idea....

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MEASURE TWICE

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I agree with all those compliments on the work on this gnarly beast!
With some of the pics you posted I was able to see that you made bends in the tube to the rear wheel to go out wider so the sheave would not scrape. Done real nice too!

I looked close to see how the clutch will tighten up on the belt. The area where I can see the pedal sprocket, with the clutch in drive moving position has more daylight in the scalloped out shapes just next to clutch part. The thing rotates clockwise as you pull back on the clutch arm by the gas tank.

What I was wondering before was what is the mechanism that will hold the arm back for two hands on the handle bars, that is until you want to unlatch the drive engaged to come to a stop an idle the engine?

Again you are definitely stylin!

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MEASURE TWICE

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Ok, yeah. When you get to it, then I'll see. I know your progression is magnitudes faster than my work on my motor bike.

I am clear on that the slack in the belt is taken up on the belt as you pull back on the hand clutch.

I just would like to know what the make is (if not designed by you) of the clutch part that allows the slight movement to take up slack, but still connect with the engine crank shaft output? I mean the round part in line with the engine crankshaft output.

I just would like to know how it accomplishes that, since I am inquisitive and just don’t take things for granted. Is there a name for this type of specific mechanism? Not the whole thing combined, as I know it is a hand clutch.

Is there somewhere I can see diagrams, wiki somewhere of this?

Thanks

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MEASURE TWICE

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Hey wait, I think I see. Am I right? The whole engine moves, go to a clockwise angle upward tightening the belt?

The engine is tight enough in place but the attachment points are slightly slotted?

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harry76

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Im not totally sure what you mean.... the thing on the end of the flywheel is a pulley. Im not 100% sure on the rest of the proper names
No the engine stays staionary, there will be an idler pulley mounted on the end of the clutcharm. When i push forward on the shifter the idler pulley will tension the primary belt. When the clutch is disengaged the idler pulley releases tension allowing the primary belt to spin.

I still need to make a jackshaft with two pulleys on to line up the motor and rear wheel. The front belt is known as the primary drive, the rear belt is known as the secondary drive.

Hope that helps, its hard to explain....
 

MEASURE TWICE

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Alright, by the end of the half moon shape part that your just posted picture that now which shows holes drilled in it, that is where you will attach an idler pully attachment.

Got it!

Thanks

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