Sportsman project coming up...questions

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curtisfox

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It says on the interweb that #41 is 1/4" width. How does that relate to the 3/16" on worksman? does it matter what width it is? can 1/8 be used on the pedal side?
The 1/8" is for for the ten speeds and up with derailers The 3/16" is standerd bike size and # 41 is heavyer and just a sliver wider and will work just fine,and should last longer.....they all are 1/2" picth.......Curt
 

brett7777

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Just needed to get some basic info on what fits the worksman. As a newbie, all the sizes and all are somewhat interesting. I think for my requirements I just need 3/16 x 1/2 & a long enough length of it to fit a worksman pedal sprocket side setup. I will find out what length the 114 link 3/16" chain is, from the local supplier . Might be long enough.
Still dunno what 41, 410, 415 are all about? Im guessing different grades, rather than sizes?
 

brett7777

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Im thinkin to use the toolbox for a really radical idea...tools ! haha
Tyre lever, patches, & a pump, so you can always get home.
plus maybe small spark plug spanner / screwdriver & suchlike
 

harry76

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I recommend getting downhill mountain bike tubes, they are a lot dearer (around $25 ea) and a lot heavier, but IMO a must. I dont think ive ever had a flat with them..... and if you are running white tyres they are likely pretty crap quality (unless you are running fat franks etc) and you may get flats reguarly.... also run rim tape if your wheel builder didnt put them on
 

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Im thinkin to use the toolbox for a really radical idea...tools ! haha
Tyre lever, patches, & a pump, so you can always get home.
plus maybe small spark plug spanner / screwdriver & suchlike
Really? I'm just putting tobacco in mine. I agree with Harry, down hill tube are the best. Thorn proof tubes are too thick.
 

Goat Herder

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Thats weird are your down hill said tubes just thicker rubber at the tread area. The down hill tubes I use here are very thick.
 

brett7777

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I recommend getting downhill mountain bike tubes, they are a lot dearer (around $25 ea) and a lot heavier, but IMO a must. I dont think ive ever had a flat with them..... and if you are running white tyres they are likely pretty crap quality (unless you are running fat franks etc) and you may get flats reguarly.... also run rim tape if your wheel builder didnt put them on
Dont mention the words 'wheel builder'...makes me go grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Have you heard of a bicycle shop that takes your brand new hubs &:
-laces them to a new rim at the rear & an old untidy WIDER rim at the front
-tells you the wheels are ready & then when you turn up they tell you to come back another day as the spokes have not been ground off
-loses your sprocket & Shimano CB E110 brake arm & strap

I found a much better way - I ordered a nice wheelset from Norm @ Venice Motor Bikes.
 

Goat Herder

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Venice will do you right.:) I have seen some bike shops in my dayrotfl I also think they let you down about the lower crown race too.
 

harry76

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If you want something right- do it yourself. I laced my own wheels, but i did take the rims and hubs to the bikeshop so they could work out spoke size and order them....there are videos on youtube and it really isnt that hard once you get the flow of it, and way more satisfying knowing you did it yourself.

Yeah my downhill tubes are very thick all the way around, i run Maxxis downhill tubes and also run them in my mountain bikes
 

sportscarpat

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To clarify a bit on tubes, I have discovered a few things. Down hill tubes are the best, have the same thickness all the way around and not just in the tread area like the thron resistant tubes, and fill with air equally. The thron resistant tubes I tried did not fill the tire equally on the 26 x 2.125 tires. As I inflated them they would fill unequally and ballon out in some areas and not touch the inside of the tire in other places. Go with the down hill tubes. I use Giant brand as that is what the local shop carries.
 

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Pat. How thick are the DH tubes? I ve been using "thorn proof" Q tubes and have experienced the bulge out issue you describe. I thought I was over inflating the tire but sounds like this is another issue. Also: How well do they hold up to thorns???
 

brett7777

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thanks for all the info.
I dunno what sort the tubes I have here are.
they are F & R Cycle brand, just says 'American valve tube' Paramount, CA

since they are from California, if they dont work right I will blame anyone from California

-just kidding
 

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harry76

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Yeah if you run those normal tubes its only a matter of time before you would have got a flat - not fun on a motorcycle, bicycle or MB. Especially removing and reinstalling a rear wheel with 2 chains..... you will thank me later :)..... keep those tubes for a normal bicycle or use them for an emergency spare since they are smaller
 

brett7777

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Yeah if you run those normal tubes its only a matter of time before you would have got a flat - not fun on a motorcycle, bicycle or MB. Especially removing and reinstalling a rear wheel with 2 chains..... you will thank me later :)..... keep those tubes for a normal bicycle or use them for an emergency spare since they are smaller
4got about the 2 chains :)
will definitely invest in DH
 

curtisfox

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Just needed to get some basic info on what fits the worksman. As a newbie, all the sizes and all are somewhat interesting. I think for my requirements I just need 3/16 x 1/2 & a long enough length of it to fit a worksman pedal sprocket side setup. I will find out what length the 114 link 3/16" chain is, from the local supplier . Might be long enough.
Still dunno what 41, 410, 415 are all about? Im guessing different grades, rather than sizes?
All three have 1/2" pitch the 41 in all three Numbers so the rest is just the width 1/8" for the derailers 3/16" regular bike and 1/4 for industrial or heavyer sprokets.....Curt
 

brett7777

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All three have 1/2" pitch the 41 in all three Numbers so the rest is just the width 1/8" for the derailers 3/16" regular bike and 1/4 for industrial or heavyer sprokets.....Curt
Thanks Curt, that makes sense now.
I have 415 for the engine side, Im sure 3/16 is fine for the pedal sprocket side.
I dont think Im enough of a chain connoisseur to worry about the 2 different widths.
 

brett7777

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so when I tighten the motor mounts all the way on the worksman frame tubes, there is still a little gap there. It seems the worksman tube is a mm or 2 less in diameter than the mount.
the motor is almost tightly mounted but I dont think enough.
I read up the thread about mounting, they say not to use rubber in there.
What would be a good idea for using as packing in there, to get the mounts snug?