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tattoomark

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Awesome work. Ive been looking forward to seeing the progress. Really looking forward to seeing what you do to make the bike match the great patina job you did on that motor!
 

TheOtherChris

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I am really liking the 'look' of this build.
I just started a BTR build and am torn between the "barn find" look and the semi restored look. It will be interesting to see how the patina coating on the engine holds up to heat.
Also, what did you use for bottom bracket bearings in your jackshaft/transmission setup?

Thanks
 

maniac57

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Nice bike! Looks like a very nice drivetrain setup...are you going to patina the aluminum parts to match the period look?
(not criticizing, just wondering)
 

fasteddy

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If I was going to start a board track build I would have to assure myself that I had the talent to make it look as good as yours or it would never be started. A beautiful build.

I'll never own a board tracker.

Steve.
 

TheOtherChris

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If I was going to start a board track build I would have to assure myself that I had the talent to make it look as good as yours or it would never be started. A beautiful build.

I'll never own a board tracker.

Steve.
I used to think that way about many things. I wouldn't buy a mill because I couldn't find a nice Bridgeport in the area. Eventually I realized that it would be better to have a chinee mill instead of waiting (forever) for a Bridgeport. I bought a large bench top mill and am VERY happy I did because I use it.

It is unlikely my BTR build will even come close to the time and attention to detail of Lurker's builds... but I still WANT A BTR.
So I will build one and have fun with it......even though it won't be as spectacular as the builds of others.

Riding a Crummy Build is Better Than Not Riding at All
 

Ludwig II

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I'm like that with guitar playing. It will never be as good as I want it to be, but I have fun with it, and sometimes I get it nearly right.

Being a crummy player's better than being no player at all.
 

Lurker

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If I was going to start a board track build I would have to assure myself that I had the talent to make it look as good as yours or it would never be started. A beautiful build.

I'll never own a board tracker.

Steve.
Oh no! That's not what I want to hear. I build these bikes to inspire others to step out of their comfort zone and take a chance at something they have never attempted before. I encourage everyone I talk to about these bikes to give it a shot. You dont have to go crazy and build a v-twin, start small and work your way up, making sure you push your self each time you do so.

Remember, It is all about planning and really thinking through your work. Plan everything, never work haphazardly.

Here are a few rules that I follow when building a btr, these are things I have learned through countless hours of research
1. Average height is around 32"
2. The crank shaft should fall on the same plain as the axles
3. The cross bar should fall at the top of the rims
4. The average length of a btr is no less than 80"
6. bottom of the frame should be between 4-6 inches from the ground.

I hope someone will find that info useful, and if you are thinking about building one you should. It is a learning experience of a lifetime.
 

fasteddy

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Lurker,
You have inspired me to build one and I'm certain a few others as well. If you look at the sidecar sticky at the top of this section you will see my sidecar in it and the Indian Tadpole thread in the trike section that Silverbear started has my Indian tricar build that I'm pushing to complete is there.

Building a board track racer to the high quality that you and others are being built is the problem. I should point out that I spent the best part of the past 55 years restoring antique furniture plus helping friends restore vintage cars and having been trained by and worked with some of the best old timers in the business. That training left me with the expectation that when I take something on I have to do the best job possible.
No one hands you a piece of furniture made in 1320 and tells you to repair it if they don't expect the best. That was the oldest piece of furniture I ever worked on and the history was known. The date carved into the door helped as well.

I understand just what the patina on the motor took to do. An extremely well done job and I'm wondering about aging the tricar as well just to see how it turns out.

Your sharing of the measurements will help a great many people who are building a board tracker and thank you for sharing you build with us.

Steve.
 

fasteddy

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I should have added that age and time constraints have about ruled out a board track build from happening for me. I will however enjoy every ones efforts that do build one.

Steve
 

Lurker

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Ok guys, I need your help. I just finished paint yesterday and now I need to get the bike running.

As most of you know I have a gx350 clone from harbor freight with stock carb and a exhaust that is 1.25" diameter and 12" long. There appears to be only one jet in the carb that is marked 188.

Here are my question.
1. does this carb only have one jet that controls idle and throttle?
2. any idea of what jet I need to order from agk? They offer 100, 102, 105, 108, 110, 112, 115 & 118
3. why is my jet marked 188?

Any input from you guys it greatly appreciated. I might just give them a call tomorrow and see if they have any ideas.
 

cobrafreak

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Is your carb a Mikuni? if it is, the one jet you see when you take the float bowl off and look under is the pilot jet. It controls the engine starting, idle, and the first 15% of the throttle. The second jet is the needle jet and jet needle. It controls the remainder of the throttle response. For my GX200 I needed to move the jet needle to the most upward position and enlarge the needle jet with a tiny drill bit. AKG has a chart of drill sizes you may use. Start small and work upward. I also needed to go up one pilot jet size because of two reasons. The first was the stock size was getting clogged with dirt going past the fuel filter. It's like one atom large. Way too small. Now it never clogs and it starts on the first pull.
 

Lurker

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Thanks CF, but I have a stock carb. I used a Mikuni on on my gx200 build and became very familiar with them, but I have never messed with a stock clone carb.
 

Ludwig II

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The one jet you can see sounds like a Mikuni number. There are many Mikuni bike carb copies from China, and they accept Mikuni jets, so replacing with a number that is higher (richer) or lower (leaner) should be simple enough. The idle adjustment on the bike carbs is often blanked off to protect the engine from incorrect adjustment, I think there are sites/forums which will tell you how to get at the encapsulated jets to change them.
 

Lurker

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Thanks ludwig, I did some more research and it seems you are correct about the pilot jet. The Honda version has a flat head adjustment screw, but the clone has a depression cast in the aluminum. When I get home from work I'm going to inspect it a little more and see if I cant make it work.

The engine will idle at half choke but it will not rev, it just kind of falls on its face and dies. I hate this part of building a bike with a gx style engine.
 

truckd

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Hey Lurker.........
need some knowledge how do I get my Indian on Google? not! Google share but rather when someone types in 1911 Indian, mine will be added into the images search like yours and others do.
 

Mr.B.

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Hey Lurker.........
need some knowledge how do I get my Indian on Google? not! Google share but rather when someone types in 1911 Indian, mine will be added into the images search like yours and others do.
Ha!, Google uses algorithms that not only use the most commonly “hit” pages, but also your own past searches/views to determine what shows up in your current search...

Everyone’s results are different based their own search/view history.

But if you want it bad enough you can buy a add that will show up in the right sidebar of everybody's search,

“-)

-Kirk
 
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Lurker

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Trucked, in addition to what Mr. B is saying I also host my images on my blog via tumblr. This allows you to tag your images with related topics that google will see and recognize.
Here is what I usually use:
board track racer, india, harley, antique, replica, tribute, vintage, retro, ect. you get the idea.
 

Lurker

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I guess I should also post an update on the progress of the bike. I must admit I have been slacking on the bike stuff as of late, due to purchase of a new vehicle and my reignited interest in cars. But the racer is almost complete, I’m just waiting on a few carburetor bits to arrive and I should be in business. I just put the final touches on the “Paint” today, which consisted of used motor oil.