Anyone considering buying a Cranbrook Please Read First

Discussion in 'Motorized Cruiser Bicycles' started by RandyWhite, Sep 18, 2011.

  1. RandyWhite

    RandyWhite New Member

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    It is no secret that I hate coaster brakes. They must be modified to even work. I don't consider them enough braking power for the speeds you will be running at. I even refuse to build anyone a coaster brake equipped bike. In general I hate them.

    But there is an alternative. Not sure when, but Walmart has dropped the price on the Schwinn Landmark from $149 to $99, plus tax. You can even get free shipping to your nearest store. Or for a small fee ( for me 4.97) get it delivered to your front door. . .

    Pros
    Steel frame
    Multispeed, if you ever pedal it's nice
    Front and rear brakes. Linear but better than a coaster brake and no mod needed.


    Cons
    smaller gauge spokes
    1 color available vs the cranbrook's 4

    For the $10-20 more, Please consider upgrading to a better bike.
     
  2. deacon

    deacon minor bike philosopher

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    Let me start out by saying I am not a professional anything these days, Least of all a bike builder. I like coaster brakes mostly because I build more friction drive than anything else. I can drop a motor on top of the rear coaster brake and not worry about cable and brake levers positioning. I always put on a second brake for the front as a emergency brake but I have never needed it as such.

    A friction drive I build will typically go about 20 mph or so. Get off the throttle and it starts bleeding speed immediately just from the engine drag. So I have to think that its more different strokes kind of thing than they are useless, or dangerous. Probably more they work for what they are, but don't work too good for what they aren't. I also hear the new wheels are not nearly as effective as the old one.
     
  3. happycheapskate

    happycheapskate New Member

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    Please use these for coaster brake straps! I love these. I had an accident when the original bolt/strap broke, and the bike pedaled me!

    [​IMG] Conduit straps with rubber pad, and machine screw for the bolt.
     
  4. deacon

    deacon minor bike philosopher

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    good idea, I dont play near enough attention to the lock down/
     
  5. biknut

    biknut Active Member

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    I think it depends more on skill and experience. I could ride the box it came in lol.
     
  6. bairdco

    bairdco a guy who makes cool bikes

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    the coaster brake's not the problem, it's the brand that makes it. if you buy a bike from a toy store that costs as much as a carton of smokes, it's gonna have a brake worth about as much as a 12 pack of shasta cola.

    i run coasters on all my bikes, as well as front drums, but the rear brakes don't fail, won't sieze, and they weren't made in china by 8 year olds or black market scandavian women trying to buy back their passports.

    bendix, shimano, sachs, velosteel, new departure, and suntour coasters rule.
     
  7. scotto-

    scotto- Custom 4-Stroke Bike Builder

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    Nope.......disc-brakes rule! They just do.

    dnut

     
  8. silverbear

    silverbear The Boy Who Never Grew Up

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    I agree with Bairdco,
    A lot of the people who bash coaster brakes have never used or seen a good one. They are not equal. Open them up for a look and you'll see these cheap little bearings in the Chinese brakes. Open up a Sachs, Bendix, etc. and you've got some real parts in there. Keep it greased and they will last forever.
    Scotto,
    We don't all of us race or can afford disc brakes. On some bikes the conversion to disc is no simple matter, say on a vintage cruiser where they just don't look right anyway. The question isn't what is best, but what works in what situation. No debate about stopping power potentially being superior with disc brakes, but I get tired of all coaster brakes being considered the same. They aren't. I'd rather have a good coaster brake than a crap disc brake. Rather have a good disc brake than a crap coaster brake. Whatever kind of brake you use, let it be well made. Even the pads on a V brake can make a big difference... Kool Stops vs. whatevers.
    SB
     
  9. biknut

    biknut Active Member

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    Just give me a board that rubs the tire. As long as it's not a Chinese board.
     
  10. RandyWhite

    RandyWhite New Member

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    I'm glad to see that everyone who posted on this topic completely missed the whole point of the post.

    I'm sure there are coaster brakes that are worth using.

    I'm disc brakes are quite nice.

    I'm sure there are better ways to secure coaster brake arms.

    However, the point of the post was for people who are considering a Cranbrook, to upgrade away from this bike in part because of the coaster brake.

    Can anyone here actually recommend the Cranbrook as a good bike to build on without adding more brakes to it? For the $20 more, get front and rear brakes already there. Spend the money on better pads.
     
  11. bairdco

    bairdco a guy who makes cool bikes

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    i didn't miss the point, but i've given up on bashing crappy walmart bikes because some people here get offended when you criticize their bikes, which cost less than my tires, and last almost as long...;)
     
  12. Greg58

    Greg58 Well-Known Member

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    Brakes on a bicycle to me are more important than gas, if you run out of gas you can stop the bike. If your brakes fail...................................>
     
  13. jokesonu

    jokesonu New Member

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    Wow they sold out already. Like I need a fourth bike.
     
  14. jokesonu

    jokesonu New Member

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    I didn't miss the point of your post and you are quite right. I also didn't miss the elitist attitudes of some people and we are after all talking about toys right? I mean really. It's a hobby and some people go way over the top about it. It's almost like the old honda vs harley cheap jap junk vs Milwaukee iron thing. Do we get to wear 1%er patches or something?? I seriously have more money wrapped up in my camera bag than any bike I've seen on here. Try to keep it clean folks. A my bikes better than your bike p***ing match. What a joke. Get real.
     
  15. happycheapskate

    happycheapskate New Member

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    Walmart bikes have come a long way but they are still bottom of the pile. :) The brand doesn't bother me. I have 2 WM bikes anyway. They are what they are. I tow my kid with one, and do road rides on the other. But they aren't fine machines, and the wheels have cheap spokes. They are good garage sale stuff though. Cheers!
     

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