Velocars and other interesting vehicles.

[Allen_Wrench]

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Steve and Allen,
Maybe I missed something, but where could be found photos and information for Allen's velo? Never too late, never too old to learn something new, or just to enjoy in other person's projects!
Zoran

Zoran, I'm on the CycleKart website. You've encountered me under my given name: Don Minch. I have a journal with the progress I've made so far. I haven't finalized a body design yet. But it will have four wheels, so it will likely look very much like an old fashioned race car. Soon, I may post some of the sketches I've made which seem the most likely to be the final design. There's still a lot of work to do. And money to set aside.

PS @FastEddy: another cool thing about the puck board is it's recyclable, and most of it out there already has recycled content. So I'm keeping some milk jugs and stuff out of the landfill, and if I ever want to make a whole new body I can take apart the old one and put it in a recycling bin. But I don't see that happening; puck board is famous for not wearing out.

 

[fasteddy]

Allen,

I looked puck board up as soon as you mentioned it and it sells in Home Depot and a local builders supply for $55 Canadian for 1/8". Affordable and as you said nearly bullet proof.

Steve.

 

[fasteddy]

Curt,

The hub and the spokes can be purchased for buggy or pony cart wheels and maybe worked into a wide bike or moped metal rim. I'd just rivet up the unneeded spoke holes so they aren't obvious.

Steve.

 

[fasteddy]

Curt,

Had a quick look for smaller wood wheels and while still not inexpensive I found these. Rubber tires are $13 extra.

http://www.customwagons.com/store/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=prodshow&ref=1062

Steve.

 

[curtisfox]

Curt,

Had a quick look for smaller wood wheels and why still not inexpensive I found these. Rubber tires are $13 extra.

http://www.customwagons.com/store/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=prodshow&ref=1062

Steve.

That's kool ,thanks will keep that in mind and save the site .............Curt

Them wheels come in 18" to 36" wow

 

[moto-klasika]

Hello to all!
A few photos, just as inspiration for light body: skin-over-frame!
Ciao,
Zoran

 

[Ludwig II]

I said for years that aero type fabric and framing is a reaonable system. Itwas used years ago on cars as well.

 

[Ludwig II]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weymann_Fabric_Bodies

 

[moto-klasika]

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVE & EVERYTHING THE BEST FOR 2016 YEAR, ON PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL FIELD, AND ESPECIALLY SUCCESFUL CREATION AND USE OF LIGHT MOTORISED VEHICLES!

Zoran
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P.S.: Attached are photos of my beloved veteran auto, ancestor of buckboards!

 

[fasteddy]

Zoran,

Interesting frame work. Definitely more rigid than just plywood.

I like the buckboard as well. Nice way to seat two people and again the engine is in the rear making the drive line easier.

Steve.

 

[fasteddy]

Ludwig,

I've often wondered if you were to apply that style of body covering over a wood frame covered in a thin plywood. Either an aircraft covering or a thinly padded fabric would look nice.

Steve.

 

[curtisfox]

Zoran
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVE & EVERYTHING THE BEST FOR 2016 YEAR, same to you and everyone else.

Nice buckboard, the spoke wheel confirm the look i was thinking.................Curt

 

[fasteddy]

Happy New Year everyone and may the New Year be filled with Motor Bike Dreams.

Fasteddy.

 

[Allen_Wrench]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weymann_Fabric_Bodies

Early Bentleys were famous for their fabric bodies. They weren't the only ones, but they had some of the best ones from what I've read.

 

[MEASURE TWICE]

It was fun as a kid to go up in a home made Piper Cub airplane that my dad's cousin had built. He was in the civil air patrol and also was certified to inspect aircraft. About the Cub's construction was with a cloth cover, wood, and I guess like these links, metal tubing. The second page link mentions things that might apply to ground based craft as well. Take a look.

http://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/aviation-...ng/building-a-tube-and-fabric-airplane-part-1

http://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/aviation-...ng/building-a-tube-and-fabric-airplane-part-2

 

[fasteddy]

In the early 60's a chap I hung out with, Dad would bring 1920's and 1930's Rolls Royce's over from Britain. Landed in Canada and brought a couple of thousand miles to where we lived they were under $4,000. A lot of money at the time but these cars were mint and low mileage. Often under 10,000 miles and Rolls Royce maintained from new.

One of them had a Weymann body and it was as quiet as a car can be. The two of us sat in the back and there was absolutely no noise. I would guess since any that was generated was absorbed by the cloth body.

We did enjoy going through the cut crystal decanters and glasses in the bar tucked into the back of the bulkhead in front of the rear seat and the cut crystal flower vases on the door pillars and we royally ticked his Dad off using the speaker phone to the chauffeurs compartment. It seems he didn't need our directions but he certainly felt free to give us his. It would have been a long walk home.

The passengers compartment was surrounded by burled wood. The car didn't stay around long like the other ones he had. He would keep them for a year and then sell them just before he made the yearly company trip to England when he went around to the Rolls Royce dealers and bought another one and had it shipped over.

The body and it's condition were the big attraction it seems and there were a string of willing purchasers. Eventually they went up in price and he bought one and kept it. Not Weymann bodied though. Showing up at a school dance with his Dad dressed as the chauffeur caused quite a splash every time.

Last I heard of it the son had it but over the years we lost touch and I have no idea if he still has it or not.

The last thing I refinished was the wood from a 1973 Rolls Royce. The quality had gone down hill a lot.

Steve.

 

[Intrepid Wheelwoman]

Happy New Year everyone and may the New Year be filled with Motor Bike Dreams.

Fasteddy.

Happy New Year to all of you

 

[moto-klasika]

Zoran, I'm on the CycleKart website. You've encountered me under my given name: Don Minch. I have a journal with the progress I've made so far. I haven't finalized a body design yet. But it will have four wheels, so it will likely look very much like an old fashioned race car. Soon, I may post some of the sketches I've made which seem the most likely to be the final design. There's still a lot of work to do. And money to set aside.

PS @FastEddy: another cool thing about the puck board is it's recyclable, and most of it out there already has recycled content. So I'm keeping some milk jugs and stuff out of the landfill, and if I ever want to make a whole new body I can take apart the old one and put it in a recycling bin. But I don't see that happening; puck board is famous for not wearing out.

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Hello Allen/Don,

Thank you on reminding me on that! I supposed that you are member of CK-Club as myself and a few other from this Forum, but couldn't remember your name there... So, I visited again your “Journal” about building pedal-powered CycleKart, possibly in style of antic monster Blitzen Benz! Many fine ideas there that could be useful and interesting for people here!


As for many of us, money is the problem for realisation of our dreams and plans, even the simplest and cheapest! Therefore, pedal-powered quadricycle should be solution! However, I would in advance think to powered it, with components that could be installed later: electric-motor or gasoline engine and transmission.
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About materials – whatever we want, could afford and what is practical... In general, I do not like any kind of “plastic”, but sometimes it is necessary. Coroplast I didn't find here in Swiss, but what I saw on internet – I wouldn't like it too much on my vehicle. For HDPE - “puck-board” I am not sure, but I use something like that on kid-auto that I build for my granddaughter in Belgrade... It is easy to shape and quite stong and stiff when it is fixed to some frame (in my case on wooden frame). However, if it stayed free, and especially if bonded or twisted – it could be broken later. At least, my granddaughter succeed in braking front left fender/mudguard on auto that I built... There is a lot of colors and for smaller surfaces it isn't too expensive (here is everything too expensive) – I forgot the price and trade-name...


Fabric-over-skin could be practical and cheap. But a lot of work should be involved (we had spare time?). Well-known Weymann body could looks wonderful, changing simple box in nice shape!


Ciao,
Zoran

 

[fasteddy]

Here is a good write up about the Weymann bodies. I'm thinking about a wood frame body with luan plywood attached and covered with Naugahyde. Much like the covering used on Weymann bodies.
They stopped making the covering as the different E.P.A. laws came into effect due to the toxic materials used to coat the cloth material. Maybe a thin layer of upholstery batting under the Naugahyde to give it a bit of fullness would work.

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=...nn.htm&usg=AFQjCNGgFkyCDtXG1ykoQ7BckYjNt9kvpQ

Steve.

 

[fasteddy]

Here is a Salmson I found on Lets talk cyclecars the H.A.M.B. Lots of great viewing on this site if you haven't seen it yet.
Cloth bodied with a little padding under it by the looks of it. Painted canvas?

Steve.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...77508266016_849878169148281593_n-jpg.3095545/