Started putting my newest build together today....

[mapbike]

On the fork you put the bushing below the head tub switch it to top,maybe handle better.

MSC inc. is industrial supply ............Curt

Curtis, the reason for the bushing being on botton is because I dont have a lower race with the right ID for these forks, thats why I change the ID to 27mm on the one end, these forks have a 27mm bulge at bottom of the stem so all the lower races I have are to small for these forks.

I can cut this bushing/spacer down to about 3/4" if I dont like the way the bike handles later, or go to my local bike shop and see if he has or can get me a race that will work won these forks.

I hope it works for me the way it is since I like the look of the fro t being a bit longer and taller.

 

[YesImLDS]

Map this build is looking great! Love the contrast of the colors and that head looks pretty dang slick as well!

 

[mapbike]

Man that bike is taking shape nicely... I'm really liking that pipe and the way you got it routed.. it really makes the bike look mean.

I got my engine out right now for a few upgrades to the top end but I'm planning on giving the bike a strip down and a real paint job while I got her apart... and I really want to get one of those KX pipes I got set up to fit the bike before I put it all back together again... the KTM pipe works great but I just don't like the way it looks...

Oh, BTW... I had a little time to test out my powder coat setup and it looks like everything is going to work well for doing the small parts with the toaster oven I got. I powder coated an old wrench yellow to test it out and it came out really nice looking... I didn't care too much for the color, but the finish was really nice right out of the oven. Definitely going to get the better colors now that I now it's gonna work.

Yeah Im hoping this bike works out the way I invision it will, Im going to more pains and spending more time on this one than I have on all my other ones, I wish the piant job on it was better but hey, it'll do fine for a Texas country boy.....lol

This bike will see miles and miles of its use on dusty rough roads like the rest of them, so the shine won't last anyway.....lol

Hope the upgrades work out great on your bike Dave, Im wanting to get my KX pipe set up on one of my bikes also, it may go on the cuture stump jumper build, but the way I bounce around with my stuff, no telling for sure which bike will actually end up with it...lol

Good to hear the powder coat system works good, if you can, Id sure like to see a pic of something you've done with it in the future.

 

[mapbike]

Map this build is looking great! Love the contrast of the colors and that head looks pretty dang slick as well!

Thank you buddy, I know some dont care much for the red tires probably, but I wanted it to be different not stylish, this bike will have several other custom built parts on it when its all said and done, this will be a cruiser much different than any of my other bikes, this will be more work for me than any of my others also, its gonna have some useful additional things instead of just being a stripped down bike like my others, gonna be a little more creative with this one as time allows.

 

[YesImLDS]

I may have missed the post, but how come you aren't doing a reverse jug anymore?

 

[mapbike]

I may have missed the post, but how come you aren't doing a reverse jug anymore?

Well, I decided not to do the reverse jug on this engine since its a unique case and I would have had to ruin it for ever being able to be used again with jug in normal position.

I still plan to do the reverse jug engine, but Im gonna use a common case when I do, I have several that will make a good candidate for it, so many project plans and so little time is my biggest problem, but Ill just keep plugging along until I get it done.

 

[curtisfox]

Curtis, the reason for the bushing being on botton is because I dont have a lower race with the right ID for these forks, thats why I change the ID to 27mm on the one end, these forks have a 27mm bulge at bottom of the stem so all the lower races I have are to small for these forks.

I can cut this bushing/spacer down to about 3/4" if I dont like the way the bike handles later, or go to my local bike shop and see if he has or can get me a race that will work won these forks.

I hope it works for me the way it is since I like the look of the fro t being a bit longer and taller.

Yes it does look Kool and i like the yellow with the black contrast.Should be a fun bike..............Curt

 

[Davezilla]

Ok... took some pics this morning... this is my very first powdercoating and was mainly a test to see if my setup would work... You can see on the end of the wrench where I picked it up with my fingers to set it into the oven but other than that (and the ugly mustard yellow color), the finish came out great. There are a few more little things I need to get like the high temp masking tape and the silicone plugs etc before I can powder coat a jug or carb body etc, but I'll be getting that stuff as I go... For now I'll be finding some more of these cheap wrenches around the shop and doing the same for practice...

 

[Rudz]

I'm just glad I'm not the only one who thinks boygofast is a damn moron

 

[mapbike]

I'm just glad I'm not the only one who thinks boygofast is a damn moron

No you're not...lol

I dont like to be mean or rude to anyone for no good reason, I have held my tongue many tim3s in the past with this fella, it may be that he really has good intentions and just wants to be part of the discussion and thats fine with me, but all the constant off topic youtube links and comments in other peoples threads starts to get a bit old after a short while and if he cant even get one of his own bikes finished and running reliably how on earth does he thing he has good info and suggestions that would be what someone else needed to get theirs going......????

Some of the mess I can just let go but Im like others here when I see someone giving potentially dangerous advice that could possibly get someone hurt or worse if they followed it, I think most people have enough common sense to know better about some things, but then again we see some very disturbing build plans on here from time to time so there are those with zero experience that may try one of these really wacked out ideas and get hurt, I dont think any of us wants that so its important that we dont give advice that could take a noob in the wrong direction.

boygofast need to continue to read on here ask simple question regarding his own bikes so he can get one of them working right and then later on he can share his personal success with others in a way that will be helpful and then those of us who know he has good info to offer can agree and support his imput.

Map

 

[Davezilla]

I'm just glad I'm not the only one who thinks boygofast is a damn moron

You and me both...

 

[mapbike]

Ok... took some pics this morning... this is my very first powdercoating and was mainly a test to see if my setup would work... You can see on the end of the wrench where I picked it up with my fingers to set it into the oven but other than that (and the ugly mustard yellow color), the finish came out great. There are a few more little things I need to get like the high temp masking tape and the silicone plugs etc before I can powder coat a jug or carb body etc, but I'll be getting that stuff as I go... For now I'll be finding some more of these cheap wrenches around the shop and doing the same for practice...

That looks like Catapillar Yellow to me, one of my late Granddads favorite colors, he painted some of it on all of his tools to identify them, I grew up seeing that color a lot, wasn't my favorite color personally, but not to bad for some things.

I have a couple rattle cans of paint that color, lid showed a nice bright yellow, but when I test sprayed some it was that good ole baby poop Catapillar Yellow or could be John Deere Yellow also I guess since they also use a yellow like that on their Backhoes and Dozers.

The finish looks good, smooth and shiny, does it seem fairly tough?

Bad thing about rattle can painting things is it looks good until you touch it and then it scratches so easy, very fragile.

 

[boxcar]

The bike is clean . I like it a bunch.
It'l be interesting to see how it rides with the riser in the forks.
I like the idea. It should actually slow the steering down a bit...
A good thing on gravel roads.
I'm with you on the BGF thing. I haven't sed anything to date ( not my place ) but wow....
A confusing and confused character for sure....
I will continue to fallow your build , as I always do .
You sir are a wealth of knowledge .
Dave did you buy your powder system from Harbor Freight?
If so, I have had the same system sitting in the shop. Not even sure where or when I got it....
Haven't used it yet .
The toaster oven comment turned on a light in my dim brain....
Thanks . I now will need to buy a new oven for the wet bar as I have new plans for the existing one......... Gregg...

 

[mapbike]

The bike is clean . I like it a bunch.
It'l be interesting to see how it rides with the riser in the forks.
I like the idea. It should actually slow the steering down a bit...
A good thing on gravel roads.
I'm with you on the BGF thing. I haven't sed anything to date ( not my place ) but wow....
A confusing and confused character for sure....
I will continue to fallow your build , as I always do .
You sir are a wealth of knowledge .
Dave did you buy your powder system from Harbor Freight?
If so, I have had the same system sitting in the shop. Not even sure where or when I got it....
Haven't used it yet .
The toaster oven comment turned on a light in my dim brain....
Thanks . I now will need to buy a new oven for the wet bar as I have new plans for the existing one......... Gregg...

Thanks for the kind words Gregg, Im just a simple tinkerer, many people here like yourself with way more knowledge than I, but I try to share what I know and hope it will be helful.

Yeah the extra rake will slow steering a little I think also, my Harley has the stretched front forks and whne I get on my old XJ650 Yamaha after riding the Harley for a while I have to be careful, Yamaha has quick reacting steering while my Harley has to be forced a bit more to turn, at slow speeds to much rake makes a bike feel a bit floppy and I dont want that on a motorized bike since slower speeds are common for making turns, but as long as it doesnt have that kinda floppy feel at low speeds Ill be fine with it..

I have some 1" shaft collars that are about 1\3 the length of the spacer I have in it now and I may just chuck one of them up in the lathe and bore it out to 27mm partially and use it on the bottom and then cut the current spacer down to an ideal length and use itto take up the space on top, this way the forks would only be about 3\4" longer than normal.

I know what you mean about Dave bringing up the toaster oven idea, bells and whiztles went off in my small amount of grey matter also...... Ill be looking at good will or similar places for a large toaster oven now so when I can get me a powder coat rig Ill already have the oven for doing the baking.

Shan

 

[allen standley]

boygofast need to continue to read on here ask simple question regarding his own bikes so he can get one of them working right and then later on he can share his personal success with others in a way that will be helpful and then those of us who know he has good info to offer can agree and support his imput.

I concur fully Map. I too believe as a noob, it's always best - if not asking for ideas/help - Visit often. Pay attention to all that's going on, sit back and gleen for a while.
This is how we come to know each other. By our work. BGF has sent me into some unusual thought areas. I think he may have somthing to say but I havn't figured it out yet...

On topic:
Map that bike looks Great! My wife loves it although she wont ride em. Dave I gotta say using a toaster oven for a paint kiln is an amazing idea. I'm gonna read up on this powder coating of parts. That wrench is the prettiest wrench I've ever seen. Maybe Map could use it as a teardrop headlight mount off a re-enforced front fender! That would be sweet! I know art when I see it.

I am replacing Top End on my bike. Pretty much done now. It's mounted with carb / exh and driveline installed. I'll hook up elects and clutch tomorrow. So darned cold in that garage. I pulled the engine and did the work dwn stairs in the cave.

 

[mapbike]

boygofast need to continue to read on here ask simple question regarding his own bikes so he can get one of them working right and then later on he can share his personal success with others in a way that will be helpful and then those of us who know he has good info to offer can agree and support his imput.

I concur fully Map. I too believe as a noob, it's always best - if not asking for ideas/help - Visit often. Pay attention to all that's going on, sit back and gleen for a while.
This is how we come to know each other. By our work. BGF has sent me into some unusual thought areas. I think he may have somthing to say but I havn't figured it out yet...

On topic:
Map that bike looks Great! My wife loves it although she wont ride em. Dave I gotta say using a toaster oven for a paint kiln is an amazing idea. I'm gonna read up on this powder coating of parts. That wrench is the prettiest wrench I've ever seen. Maybe Map could use it as a teardrop headlight mount off a re-enforced front fender! That would be sweet! I know art when I see it.

I am replacing Top End on my bike. Pretty much done now. It's mounted with carb / exh and driveline installed. I'll hook up elects and clutch tomorrow. So darned cold in that garage. I pulled the engine and did the work dwn stairs in the cave.

Thanks Allen, yeah Im gonna continue to enjoy getting this bike where I want it, I have several ideas about how I may do this and that to it, some aren't concrete yet, but this bike will be much differnt than all my others when its done.

Come on down to Texas buddy, its a bit cloudy and rainy here in the central area today but currently 75F and a light breeze.... perfect tinkering weather.

Yeah I been thunking about Headlight for this bike, may keep it simple at first since I do have a couple options on hand already, but may actually build something better for it later on.

 

[Davezilla]

On the powder coat, so far it seems to be pretty durable... noticeably more durable than paint but I will put the stuff to the test even more...
For the gun, yes it's the harbor freight setup and it does work pretty well.. I can only compare it to my friend's Eastwood setup and they're both very similar in setup as well as build quality. For the heating, the toaster oven does the job quite well but it needs to be preheated before putting the parts inside. I will do more experimenting this weekend and torture testing the wrenches I'm going to practice on.

For now, best I can say is so far so good since I've only done that one wrench so far...

 

[mapbike]

On the powder coat, so far it seems to be pretty durable... noticeably more durable than paint but I will put the stuff to the test even more...
For the gun, yes it's the harbor freight setup and it does work pretty well.. I can only compare it to my friend's Eastwood setup and they're both very similar in setup as well as build quality. For the heating, the toaster oven does the job quite well but it needs to be preheated before putting the parts inside. I will do more experimenting this weekend and torture testing the wrenches I'm going to practice on.

For now, best I can say is so far so good since I've only done that one wrench so far...

good deal, Ill be watching your comments on the powder coat durability.

 

[Davezilla]

Yeah I decided the best way to test the durability is by doing some of those cheaper wrenches since they usually have a kinda textured finish so the powder coat sticks to it pretty well without the need to sand blast the chrome off... but since there's still chrome on the wrenches the powder coat wont stick to them as well as if I de chromed them first... this will ensure durability testing since the stuff is being applied to an improperly prepped surface... the surface is cleaned very well but its going onto chrome so if it canstand up to staying put on that I'll know for sure it wont come off a properly prepoed surface. Also doing the wrenches they will get pretty beat up pretty fast since they get used a LOT.

For the curing it only takes about 10 minutes at 400 degrees so the toaster oven works great since it shuts off at the set time and cools the parts gradually at the same time so you can set the temp, crank it over to 10 minutes and walk away... the only disadvantage to the toaster oven is its size if one wants to do larger parts but eastwood sells a powder cost curing lamp that heats the parts outside an oven and there's no size limit... just need to cure one section at a time by moving the lamp about every 10 minutes. I'll get one of these later on if I can do bike frames and tanks etc, something like that would pay for its self after just a few jobs.

 

[curtisfox]

Have a friend that got a old electric stove with oven and uses it just for that works good........Curt