So Cal Race on Oct. 22 at Grange

[MotorBicycleRacing]

Looks like PaulD the winner at the April Tucson Death race is coming
with a faster ebike.
You fast gas bikes have some competition in the Ultimate Race.

If you can make it down to Oregon,
I bet PaulD will give you a ride to SF area, where he is meeting
with me and some friends to carpool the rest of the way.

 

[ducedave]

Death race -Iron Man -Marathon -Baja-Indy
All grate names Grange has a cool sound the race could use some tough name like
THE BEET DOWN AT GRANGE
THE SLAUGHTER HOUSE AT GRANGE
THE SO CAL SHOOT OUT AT GRANGE
Are you going to THE BEET DOWN-Who will the fastest at the SHOOT OUT
this are good names
Neil, is the name So Cal Race set in stone?
I've just ask people are you going to Grange or the Grange event I like the name the SHOOT OUT at Grange

 

[MotorBicycleRacing]

New rule for gas and ebikes: All bikes must have an adequate front and rear brake.

So called "regen brakes" are not acceptable as a braking system.

The only exception to this rule is for the guys in the 50 cc 4 stroke class and
the 2 stroke Chinese kit bike class that only have a coaster brake and are not serious racers.

It is a fun event and i don't want to discourage new riders in the 2 low powered and speed classes from participating.
To everyone with only a coaster rear brake it is strongly recommended to get your bike fitted with a front brake.

Only 33 days to go to the big day.

 

[liveforphysics]

Looks like PaulD the winner at the April Tucson Death race is coming
with a faster ebike.
You fast gas bikes have some competition in the Ultimate Race.

I assume you mean unlimited race as an event for him after his normal class race right? PaulD's bike had 4hp in the death race... His new bike has a hopeful 6hp with overheating issues... That entire race he was getting killed on the straights, had to draft to make his pass, he won through superior riding on all bicycle parts too!

Why on earth would this be in unlimited class? Because he is an excellent rider on a feather-weight low-power machine he built from scratch with a motor the size of a soda can???

There is absolutely NOTHING on PaulD's bike that would put it ONLY in unlimited.

This is PaulD's bike:

This was the 2nd place finishing bike that lead the race for 90% of the time until PaulD managed a breath takingly awesome pass from a combo of drafting the faster bike down the straight and the faster bike making a corner entry mistake.

 

[MotorBicycleRacing]

liveforphysics you are confused and got it backwards.
Please read it again carefully..........you are confusing
the word Ultimate for Unlimited. (Unlimited means no limits) Get it?

I never said the word Unlimited. in the post above.

I said the fast gas bikes will have some competition from PaulD in the Ultimate Race
which is the big race of all 5 classes of bikes at the end of the day which includes.
ebikes
50 cc 4 Stroke
Chinese 2stroke kit bikes.
Mid range class.
11 hp or less class.

magrider won both the Ultimate race and the 2 stroke class at Willow Springs
and there was no Unlimited race. it is new for the Oct 22nd race.

The Unlimited Class is for bikes 12 hp or more which are outside the rules
like a multi speed motorcycle engine or for using motorcycle tires or for using over size
electric motors.

There are only two bikes that fit in the Unlimited Class right now.
One is agk's 20 hp harbor freight bike and your bike with it's over
sized electric motor made by goldenmotor.com.

I agree with everything you said about PaulD's bike below as it fits in
with the few rules that the race has.
PaulD won the Tucson race fair and square and he would have got the
#1 plate if he had shown up at Willow Springs.

Please read what I said again......

I assume you mean unlimited race as an event for him after his normal class race right? PaulD's bike had 4hp in the death race... His new bike has a hopeful 6hp with overheating issues... That entire race he was getting killed on the straights, had to draft to make his pass, he won through superior riding on all bicycle parts too!

Why on earth would this be in unlimited class? Because he is an excellent rider on a feather-weight low-power machine he built from scratch with a motor the size of a soda can???

There is absolutely NOTHING on PaulD's bike that would put it ONLY in unlimited.


This was the 2nd place finishing bike that lead the race for 90% of the time until PaulD managed a breath takingly awesome pass from a combo of drafting the faster bike down the straight and the faster bike making a corner entry mistake.

 

[MotorBicycleRacing]

liveforphysics
Here are the classes.

Here are the 5 Motor Race Classes + Unlimited Class.
This is also the race order with eBikes first.

All entries must have functioning pedals.

1) eBike:
generally <9K peak input, 8.1K output almost 11 electric hp
dual motors sum <9K
Turnigy's, Colossus, Astros, others,
<9K input for hubbies C9s, 53XXs, Stoke Monkey, BMC, others

No real motorcycle tires allowed. Bicycle tires only.

2) 4 Stroke:
Robin Subaru 25cc and Honda GX 25 cc
Robin Subaru 35cc and Honda GX 35 cc
Honda 49 cc GXH and Huasheng 49 cc clone Titan 49.4 cc Super Titan 49.4 cc
Any other 4 strokes less than 50 cc

The <35 cc 4 strokes will be a 4 stroke subclass with their own winner.

No limits on motor modifications, Shifter kits are ok,
No real motorcycle tires allowed. Bicycle tires only.

3) 2 Stroke:
48 cc to 66 cc aka 80 Chinese bicycle motors.

2 groups run because of large number of entries.

No limits on motor modifications, Shifter kits are ok,
No real motorcycle tires allowed. Bicycle tires only.

4) >50cc Mid Range Class:
Harbor Freight 79 cc Greyhound
Harbor Freight 99 cc Predator
Honda GX 100
Honda GX 160
Whizzer 136cc
Pit Bike Cag 4+ hp 2 stroke
GP 460 47cc 4.5 hp 2 stroke
Briggs & Stratton 5 hp
Morini 5.8 hp 2 stroke

5) Gas Bikes <11 hp:
9 hp Morini
11 hp water cooled Morini
6.5 hp Harbor Freight or similar.

No real motorcycle tires allowed. Bicycle tires only.

The first 4 to 7 finishers from the above 5 Classes will race against each other in
The Ultimate Race.

UNLIMITED Gas OR eBike Class
Includes any motorized bicycles that are over 12 hp and don't
fit in any the other classes but meet a few basic common
sense rules like functioning pedals and still resemble bicycles.

Multi speed shiftable motorcycle engines are in this class.
Motorcycle tires are in this class.

Exceptions may be made to the above classes and rules at the race
organizers discretion [That's me] and the list will be updated as needed.

Racer's feedback is welcomed to define these classes more.
[email protected]
Thanks.

 

[liveforphysics]

Gotcha

My mistake for mis-reading. Thank you for setting me straight.

 

[ducedave]

Rule (1) have fun
Rule(62)Don't take your self so d--- seriously
it's just pre-race nerves so JUST LET IT ALL HANG OUT or y-all we end up like me!!!!
:-

 

[Easy Rider]

Going to open up registration and payment any day so will
have the current list of rider numbers online.


If you aren't coming to any more SoCal Motor Bicycle Racing events and want
to give your number up that you used at the Willow Springs Race let me know.
Thanks

Count me in!
Now....
How do we sign up?

 

[BADBOOH]

Quick question,

I will not be racing, cruiser not running, and have yet to start building a race bike. However, I would like to drive up and watch the races (may even bring my sons) is there a cost to spectate and hang out with the racers in the pits? I have a buddy racing and would like to bring my badass camera to take some good pics for the forum.

 

[MotorBicycleRacing]

I will not be racing, cruiser not running, and have yet to start building a race bike. However, I would like to drive up and watch the races (may even bring my sons) is there a cost to spectate and hang out with the racers in the pits? I have a buddy racing and would like to bring my badass camera to take some good pics for the forum.

Spectators are $10 and kids 16 and under are free with an adult.

Camping is free Friday and Saturday night for spectators and race
entries and there is a supermoto race on Sunday you can stay and
watch for no extra charge.

There is a pro photographer hired to cover the event but the more
pics the better.

You have 30 days to get a bike together and get out on the track
with your buddy which will be too much fun..............

 

[etard]

I just had a thought of how to bring more participants into this race... What if we had a stand up scooter race? I see a lot of these guys toolim around the nieghborhood and a few around town, but I suspect they get messed with by the cops quite often and have to park thier motorboards. Funsuckers! Anyway, I bet a few on here own one and the guys that have had to park them instead of getting a ticket may just want to start thier own racing league and could piggyback onto our ecclectic group no problem. Personally, I like longboarding and I might even be interested in getting a "stink" (LOL) board and getting out on the track with one. Of course, they would be in thier own separate races. Just a thought to gain more traction, more sources of income, and more cool guys together.

 

[MotorBicycleRacing]

I am going to the Grange track this Friday to check everything
out for the race and take pics.
Planning on being there at about 10 am with my pal dand who
will be running his new 4 stroke chopper build around the track.

Everyone who wants to get some practice in is welcome to join us.
Grange track charges $30 to practice on any day there isn't a
scheduled event so you have 30 days before the race.

You can check the calendar here.
Contact us

 

[ducedave]

o-dand some where there's 3 10 speeds missing there chains

 

[MotorBicycleRacing]

I am going to the Grange track this Friday to check everything
out for the race and take pics.
Planning on being there at about 10 am

Everyone who wants to get some practice in is welcome to join us.
Grange track charges $30 to practice on any day there isn't a
scheduled event so you have 30 days before the race.

You can check the calendar here.
Contact us

Change of plans, we are not going today so the new date is next Tuesday.

 

[ducedave]

Tuning and found a vacuum leak the plates that make up my read housing had warped tap down and sand this is taking longer then I thought it would - then I can start tuning for altitude with the special ingredient????

 

[ducedave]

see you in the pits

 

[MotorBicycleRacing]

FLAGS:
Red Flag

If at any other time during the race a red flag is displayed, all
racing will immediately come to a safe halt. A red flag will be displayed and
a race may be stopped if there is a situation that warrants. If more than
half of the laps have been completed the race will be terminated and racers
will be awarded with the position of their last completed lap. If less than
half of the laps have been completed, the race will usually be restarted.


Yellow Flag

The yellow flag represents a warning to riders that the race
track is not as expected and where extra attention is to be paid to the
racing environment. Riders are to proceed with caution until past the
yellow flag situation. When a waiving yellow flag is displayed passing is
prohibited, speed should be in check until you are beyond the incident.

Black Flag

If a rider is presented the black flag the rider is to safely
return to the pits or pull off the track. The black flag is presented to a rider
under the following conditions: race conduct, or race officials observe a
motorcycle presenting a danger to the rider or other participants. Failure
to comply will result in a loss of track access.

White Flag

The white flag informs the riders that there is one lap
remaining in the race event.

Checkered Flag the race is concluded and a winner is declared.

 

[scotto-]

And don't forget the all important GREEN FLAG that starts the race.

 

[ducedave]

and don't forget the all important green flag that starts the race.

Dnut

the checkered flag dude!