Sat OCT 20th 2012 @ Grange Motor Circuit SOCAL MOTOR BICYCLE RACING
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definitely takes a few days to edit video.. But on another note-
The way things are looking in the 2 stroke class after this race we seem to have an attendance problem. I for one will always show up to run my 2 laps in the main until something on the bike fails and then curse my bike for a few days after the race and threaten retirement, but i will ALWAYS be there giving it **** in the fast class! One of these days Ill podium. wait- I would need to complete the race first. but I digress...
It seems a lot of folks have fallen off, and there has been much rumbling about the racing becoming too competitive in the 2 stroke class. Just so anyone reading this will know, Neil finally added a cruise class for the not-so-Arrow bikes. Or rather, the BBQ and Beer social scene class. I encourage anyone who hit the death race, Willow, Grange back in april-- COME BACK we miss you! with two classes now, it returns a portion of the day to just groovin' that ape-hanger adorned stretch around the twisties without the fear of being run over by a 50mph orange mohawk. and its far more fun when Jason and the disco box show up, and Ken with his chest mount go pro. We missed the trumpeted board track crew, Pat and his Flyers, those guys with the giant green Jeepney 1920 motorhome...and a few more of the gang. We are a small lot, and wouldnt be doing it if it wasnt fun. Acknowledging that different people have different versions of fun, I think the new 2 stroke class really address this.
The fast class has gotten twice as fast as the 2011 racing! well, ok, 25% faster. (but thats HUGE!!) 52mph radar's down the straight is quick on a damn beach cruiser; and its because of Dave. It would seem as though Dave Rust has become the Chip Gnassi of MB racing. or MacLaren. or the... you get my drift. He is the guy with the fast bikes. He is the guy to beat. the guy you want to hate. But wait-- isnt he the guy who supplies all the trophies? and doesnt he help EVERYONE at the track? I really hope that the low attendance is not due to "racing being too competitve". that just makes my ears bleed to hear, but I think the new class addresses that complaint.
Quick anecdote: late friday after everyone was turning in for the night, I sat and had a couple cold ones with a fellow racer, (you know who you are) and I asked him "how do you make your engines go so fast?!", and he said,"I dont know man, I just bolt the sh*t together, and if it works, then great". I thought that statement was awesome!. That's the grassroots ideal of MB racing: JUST DO IT! (or maybe that's a shoe company. whatever...)
That being said, with that approach a fella has no chance against a mechanical Engineer with a past as an engine builder in alcohol drag-boat racing and a professional flat track racing career, of which garnered more trophies than a guy could handle. (so many that he's now giving his hard earned statues of triumph to us haphazard MB racers, or making them). The Upside to this, is that if you want to run in the fast class with a shot at the title you really can!. Not only does Dave Rust build Engines for himself, Mag Rider and Me, he sells them to other race-minded MB'ers! his engines rip as we saw on the dyno. And cheap for what you get. with a stocker its 3hp for $180. Daves are 9hp for $550.( so lets call it 3hp for $200.) do the math; daves bikes are 3x more powerful as stock. so 3hp x 3=9hp, then $200 x 3 should be $600. but his are $50 less. so its cheaper than the simple math. But THIS ISNT ABOUT MATH. His engines are WORTH IT. So before you complain about the Arrow team winning too much, sit down and add up exactly how much you've spent on your bike along the way. I bet its more than $600. It reminds me of other forms of racing: to be competitive you get the shelby motor, the Maclaren motor, etc.. Racing is an expensive endeavor whatever youre driving. But we know the allure of MB'ing is the low cost, so there's the rub.
The bottom line is, I love racing. I'm too old and too big, but f*** it. I love going around that track with the outlandish hallucination that I might win. I run an Arrow Racing engine and its fast as snot on ice when the bike holds up.
Any form of racing costs money to be competitive. there's always someone to beat, and fortunately we have the luxury of running the same equipment as that someone.
Or, for those on a budget, we have the luxury of running in the new cruise class. In my eyes, 2013 ought to be a great racing season. iF ANYONE HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS about new tracks to run, please chime in! especially any tracks that are closer. imagine a track near the beach. that'd be rad.
check out arrowmotorizedcycles.com and get your bike running fast! oh, and the reed box arguments? the thing Dave took for granted was that he expected purchasers would have a knowledge of two stroke theory, so he didnt include instructions regarding jetting and the required carburetor adjustments. For example, I had to get a mikuni 18mm carb to give it the increased required amount of fuel to work. That required a new manifodl, which he includes if you want it. Sure there have been plenty of bikes that were bolt and go, but not mine. I called Dave and within a day or so I had a waaaay faster bike.
Ayway, thanks again for a great 2012 season, have a great holiday season, and be on the look out for a surprise race popping up in the next couple months!
Jake
The way things are looking in the 2 stroke class after this race we seem to have an attendance problem. I for one will always show up to run my 2 laps in the main until something on the bike fails and then curse my bike for a few days after the race and threaten retirement, but i will ALWAYS be there giving it **** in the fast class! One of these days Ill podium. wait- I would need to complete the race first. but I digress...
It seems a lot of folks have fallen off, and there has been much rumbling about the racing becoming too competitive in the 2 stroke class. Just so anyone reading this will know, Neil finally added a cruise class for the not-so-Arrow bikes. Or rather, the BBQ and Beer social scene class. I encourage anyone who hit the death race, Willow, Grange back in april-- COME BACK we miss you! with two classes now, it returns a portion of the day to just groovin' that ape-hanger adorned stretch around the twisties without the fear of being run over by a 50mph orange mohawk. and its far more fun when Jason and the disco box show up, and Ken with his chest mount go pro. We missed the trumpeted board track crew, Pat and his Flyers, those guys with the giant green Jeepney 1920 motorhome...and a few more of the gang. We are a small lot, and wouldnt be doing it if it wasnt fun. Acknowledging that different people have different versions of fun, I think the new 2 stroke class really address this.
The fast class has gotten twice as fast as the 2011 racing! well, ok, 25% faster. (but thats HUGE!!) 52mph radar's down the straight is quick on a damn beach cruiser; and its because of Dave. It would seem as though Dave Rust has become the Chip Gnassi of MB racing. or MacLaren. or the... you get my drift. He is the guy with the fast bikes. He is the guy to beat. the guy you want to hate. But wait-- isnt he the guy who supplies all the trophies? and doesnt he help EVERYONE at the track? I really hope that the low attendance is not due to "racing being too competitve". that just makes my ears bleed to hear, but I think the new class addresses that complaint.
Quick anecdote: late friday after everyone was turning in for the night, I sat and had a couple cold ones with a fellow racer, (you know who you are) and I asked him "how do you make your engines go so fast?!", and he said,"I dont know man, I just bolt the sh*t together, and if it works, then great". I thought that statement was awesome!. That's the grassroots ideal of MB racing: JUST DO IT! (or maybe that's a shoe company. whatever...)
That being said, with that approach a fella has no chance against a mechanical Engineer with a past as an engine builder in alcohol drag-boat racing and a professional flat track racing career, of which garnered more trophies than a guy could handle. (so many that he's now giving his hard earned statues of triumph to us haphazard MB racers, or making them). The Upside to this, is that if you want to run in the fast class with a shot at the title you really can!. Not only does Dave Rust build Engines for himself, Mag Rider and Me, he sells them to other race-minded MB'ers! his engines rip as we saw on the dyno. And cheap for what you get. with a stocker its 3hp for $180. Daves are 9hp for $550.( so lets call it 3hp for $200.) do the math; daves bikes are 3x more powerful as stock. so 3hp x 3=9hp, then $200 x 3 should be $600. but his are $50 less. so its cheaper than the simple math. But THIS ISNT ABOUT MATH. His engines are WORTH IT. So before you complain about the Arrow team winning too much, sit down and add up exactly how much you've spent on your bike along the way. I bet its more than $600. It reminds me of other forms of racing: to be competitive you get the shelby motor, the Maclaren motor, etc.. Racing is an expensive endeavor whatever youre driving. But we know the allure of MB'ing is the low cost, so there's the rub.
The bottom line is, I love racing. I'm too old and too big, but f*** it. I love going around that track with the outlandish hallucination that I might win. I run an Arrow Racing engine and its fast as snot on ice when the bike holds up.
Any form of racing costs money to be competitive. there's always someone to beat, and fortunately we have the luxury of running the same equipment as that someone.
Or, for those on a budget, we have the luxury of running in the new cruise class. In my eyes, 2013 ought to be a great racing season. iF ANYONE HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS about new tracks to run, please chime in! especially any tracks that are closer. imagine a track near the beach. that'd be rad.
check out arrowmotorizedcycles.com and get your bike running fast! oh, and the reed box arguments? the thing Dave took for granted was that he expected purchasers would have a knowledge of two stroke theory, so he didnt include instructions regarding jetting and the required carburetor adjustments. For example, I had to get a mikuni 18mm carb to give it the increased required amount of fuel to work. That required a new manifodl, which he includes if you want it. Sure there have been plenty of bikes that were bolt and go, but not mine. I called Dave and within a day or so I had a waaaay faster bike.
Ayway, thanks again for a great 2012 season, have a great holiday season, and be on the look out for a surprise race popping up in the next couple months!
Jake
What I was noticing was that it wasn't always who had the more hp that was winning/up there in the front. A lot of this kind of racing is tires, suspension and brakes. All of which can be had second hand from a variety of sources. Point being you can be competitive without the most hp/money. Ingenuity and creativity are things you can't buy. I was going to add riding skills to tire, suspension and brakes but you guys give it all you got! Thanks again for an awesome time.
Thanks Neil for arranging another fun and safe race. and thanks to all the sponsors who donated time and prizes. We love our Joker and Shuttlebuddy T shirts. All three of our Briggs bikes were down at lunch time. Greg and I had to clean our carbs and plugs. Shaun (oppanoia) broke his compression release inside the block and we had to determine if he could race the main without further damage. It all worked out and we were soon up and running. It was good to see Gilbert again and to race against his faster bike. I'm sure he would have beat us handily if he hadn't gone down. Oppanoia crashed after passing me and never recovered his position. Greg and I came in pretty close together with me edging him out on the last lap. The Joker machines are fantastic and seem to handle as well. Will hung out with us for a while before leading us to the finish of the main. I heard a lot of talk about making friction drive bikes for the next race. No power loss through belts or chains. Very simple and effective. And what a show put on by Shuttlebuddy's team. Fast lap times and great racing. It sounds like a lot of racers migrating down to the mid range class next time.
It was good to see a big showing of Briggs powered bikes out at the race . I had some funky gearing this race that made my bike a dog in the low end . I will put it back to the lower gearing I ran before it liked the lower gearing better .
I messed up and didnt point the GoPro high enough so there's some tank shots. It is a different riding style from my set up as it wasnt me wearing the GoPro.
And sorry for all the cuts, my pc just sucks and this was the only way I can put something together.
<11hp main
http://youtu.be/bo7RjO4b7Ys
And sorry for all the cuts, my pc just sucks and this was the only way I can put something together.
<11hp main
http://youtu.be/bo7RjO4b7Ys
yeah that didnt sound like morini. nice sound i cant find any prices or places to actually buy those engines. but looking good
A friend of scotto's bought a couple of very nice bicycles.
We can bring our non motored bikes and ride / race on the track
on Friday night.
What do you guys think?
We can bring our non motored bikes and ride / race on the track
on Friday night.
What do you guys think?
wow! a nice tribute to retired racer baird. someday, maybe, he will be back. retire his number? he will be missed by many of us. dennis
Here's 3 shots of #3 taken by friend Krystal's cell phone, doin what he loves to do --------> RACE !
When Tony got to the track at 10pm Friday night, we rode three laps on his non-motored bicycles......it was a blast.A friend of scotto's bought a couple of v
ery nice bicycles.
We can bring our non motored bikes and ride / race on the track
on Friday night.
What do you guys think?
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Curtis and Pink rode to the race on this 60's Yamaha.
Check out the unpadded board seat
Check out the unpadded board seat
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New guy Dan # 419 on a 66 cc China girl in the entry level class.
Bike had a really cool green metal flake finish.
Bike had a really cool green metal flake finish.
