Raw engines

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  1. chopperjoe

    chopperjoe New Member

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    Looking for info on the quality of Raw engines. Venice stated that he is using Raw engines, and I would like to trust his experiance, but the man on the phone at Gasbike is almost refusing to sell me one saying that their junk, and having problems with the chrome on the mufflers and I would be better off with a Grubee. I own a Grubee and pretty satisfied with it, but looking for a little something different, just for the variety factor. He also stated that he would sell me the grubee for $119 the same price as the Raw. Maybe we can use this sales pitch to our advantage.
     

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  2. Venice Motor Bikes

    Venice Motor Bikes Custom Builder / Dealer/Los Angeles

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    Of course, he wants to sell you one of HIS engines!! duh...

    I've used many of the engine kits out there for my builds... There are lots of good ones & lots of bad ones.
    I could buy cheaper engines at a much better price & make more $$$; but I'm real happy with the quality of these! ;)
     
  3. chopperjoe

    chopperjoe New Member

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    Thats were I was mislead, they sell both Grubee and Raw, but he was offering me the Grubee for the same price, and told me Raw was of poor quality. I trust your advice Venice and like the look of the Raw, maybe I will purchase the Raw from another dealer, im looking at buying 2 more motors and Gasbike included the 415 chain at no extra cost. Thanks for the responce. Joe
     
  4. BOREDTrackRacer

    BOREDTrackRacer New Member

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    The Grubee Slanthead gt5 is the the best one of these IMO. Reliability and power are night and day. Its worth the extra money. But for some reason they dont come with the 415 chain.
     
  5. longhair

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    I've now built about 14 MBs with Rockvoice {we live in the same apartment} in the last year, and we've used both Raws and Grubees'. They seem to run the same, our fastest two is one grubee 66 and one Raw 66. I do think Grubee Starfire motors have some better built parts, but I would not hesitate to buy a Raw again. Good Luckscratg
     
  6. fall_down_stand_up

    fall_down_stand_up New Member

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    I bought 2 Raw engine kits on e-bay for 100 bucks each with free shipping....I havent mounted one yet but they sure look good....
    John-John
     
  7. The 26incher

    The 26incher New Member

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    I have a Raw 66cc in the bike I have right now and I couldn't be happier. I think it's hit or miss with the chinese engines. You might get a good one or a lemon...
     
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    Thanks for all the response, I believe I will go with a Raw 66. Now to find another sacrificial bike. Joe
     
  9. wes

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    I have a raw and couldnt be happier, i put one of Creative engineerings cnc intakes on it and opened up the exhaust, my raw is a tourque monster, i cant beleive how much power i am getting out of my raw engine, take this from a guy that rides a XR 600 on the weekends, i went with zone8 and the quality of the parts that came with the kit are some of the best ive seen. Good luck
     
  10. Wood.Neely

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    i ordered a grubee skyhawk 66cc on monday and can not wait for it to get here. in the mean time i have been reading everything on this forum i can so that the bike runs perfectly... at first i thought i was going to have to order a chain but mine does come with a standard 410 chain, what would be the benefits of the 415 over the 410?

    thanks
     
  11. Bikeguy Joe

    Bikeguy Joe Godfather of Motorized Bicycles

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    Grubee puts a nice sticker on theirs.
     
  12. Motorbike Wanabe

    Motorbike Wanabe New Member

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    I tend to like the 410 chain. At least the size of it, since it gives more clearance for the frame and the tire. I swapped out the 410 chain that came with the kit because it had several stiff links. I bought the replacement Bell chain from Wal-Mart and it runs much smoother. It was like $14 for the replacement chain with two master links.
     
  13. pre-war Schwinn

    pre-war Schwinn New Member

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    I bought a raw that was shipped from Orange county Calif. I had everything in order and I could see no reason to change I did wait years to take the plunge the market is flodded now and only the Dweebs I've met talk grubee any more. Of course the Raw tag had to go It leave two tiny pin holes in the case. My mounting studs were easily to remove a 80 lbs pressure and my tank was scratched up but I put a pot leaf on it any way
     
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  14. BarelyAWake

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    Time and again the topic of "which brand name is better" pops up, and each and every time the results are the same - every poster likes w/e engine they happen to have with little actual evidence other than "it runs good" - save the very few that realize the truth of it, like 26incher's observation: "I think it's hit or miss with the chinese engines. You might get a good one or a lemon..."

    Best advice? Ignore the hype & give your monies to a reputable vendor that actually offers customer support - regardless of what "brand" engine they sell... then peel the sticker off and call it w/e ya want ;)
     
  15. Bikeguy Joe

    Bikeguy Joe Godfather of Motorized Bicycles

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    What kind of engine would that be? A "dube stroke"? ;)
     
  16. Humsuckler

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    hit or miss, lemon or orange for sure haha

    i bought 4 engines from one guy, and then i got one that spun its magneto, the warrenty replacement he sent..... was sent without any rings installed.

    i got a brand new engine, with no piston rings.

    lemons, i think not.
    that was more like a rotten apple!
     
  17. fall_down_stand_up

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    The longest lasting engine I have bought so far is a BGF 80cc engine kit....I do have the 2 new raw engines I have not mounted yet....

    John-John
     
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    my next one will be a pk motor from pirate thats is hand built buy the guys on here.
     
  19. longhair

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    I agree hand built is better, those computerized robotic machines that put together all the chinese motors somtimes leave out a part or two.....................laff
     
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