please help!! I wanna buy this bike&engine tommrrow !!

Animated view Motorized Bicycle Clutch Assembly and countershaft

Here is were I found the breakdown of the clutch. Very informative thread. Must take a look.
 
2door said:
Mike,
The petcock that comes with the kit and fits the fuel tank is a metric thread, 10mm and is a machine thread, not pipe threads. There is, or should be a small red gasket between the petcock and the fuel tank.

Tom
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Yep, I guess that would make sense. The 1/8" bsp fitting works though, and doesn't require the red gasket. I had a bsp fitting in a tank for a while and never had an issue with leaks, and all I ever needed was Teflon tape or "pipe dope". Just don't over torque the fitting and deform the bung. Note that I said BSP and not NPT. There is a difference.
 
mikeab13 said:
http://www.gasbike.net/universal-bicycle-tool-set-4181-prd1.html

Do you think this would be a good tool set to invest in or should I go to harbor freight an get a general auto mechanics tool kit?
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That actually looks like a pretty good bicycle tool kit for $50.
  1. Tube Repair kit
  2. Philips (2) and flat screwdrivers (2)
  3. Freewheel remover
  4. Small screwdriver (for derailleur adjustment)
  5. 8/10 mm forged open-ended wrench
  6. Freewheel turner (chain whip)
  7. 30/32 + 36/40 mm headset-wrench
  8. Cone wrenches (13/15 + 14/16 mm)
  9. Cotterless crank arm extractor
  10. Spoke adjuster 10/11/12/13/14/15G
  11. 1.5/2/2.5/3/4/5/5.5/6 mm allen key set
  12. Adjustable bottom bracket tool
  13. 15/16 + 15/17 pedal wrench
  14. Cartridge bottom bracket tool
  15. Adjustable forged steel wrench 0-21 mm
  16. Chain rivet extractor
  17. 8 mm hex key wrench (for crank arm removal)
  18. 3 tire levers
  19. 6/8/9/10 mm hexagonal wrench
It won't help you with your engine work, but it has every specialty bicycle tool I can think of and I think I'll snag one next time I buy something there.
 
I gotta go with Harbor Freight as well... Their tool quality has become really good in the last few years and I use a lot of their tools in my shop since the price is great and the quality is right up there too... pretty much the only difference between them and some of the name brand tools is that there's no warranty on most their stuff, but I've yet to break one of their wrenches and only messed up one 3/8" drive socke, but that was because I was using it on a 1/2" drive impact and it flared the socket...
 
mikeab13 said:
http://www.gasbike.net/universal-bicycle-tool-set-4181-prd1.html

Do you think this would be a good tool set to invest in or should I go to harbor freight an get a general auto mechanics tool kit?
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If you can afford it, go for it. An auto set is gonna have a lot of tools that have nothing to do with bikes. With this one all yer gonna need is a few tools for the 2 stroke stuff and a way to carry everything, cause ya NEVER want to go anywhere without yer tools. FIRST time ya do you'll break down 10 miles from the garage and yer toolbox. TRUST me , I know.
fatdaddy.
 
My shop is loaded with HF stuff as well and by far the best place for you engine wrenches and sockets and any other MB tool you might need.

If you do work on bicycle parts, like crank arms, reewheel, cassettes, cranks, spokes, etc, you need specialty tools.

That kit has well over $100 worth buying them separately, at least I have spent that much already and still don't have 5 or so of those tools.

Not needed to just mount a 2-stroke kit on a good bike, just keep it in mind when the bike itself needs fixed ;-}
 
I'm only going to say one thing. When I buy tools I look at them as an investment. Not for something I can return 'when it breaks'.

When I reach for a tool I want it to do its job and remain in one piece and do what it was designed and made to do. I don't want to have to get in my car and drive to where I bought it to get a new one.

Cheap tools are just that; cheap tools.

Tom
 
Of course they are.

Cheap stuff is always cheap stuff. Cheap bikes are cheap bikes and $100 CG engines are cheap engines. Cheap is cheap.

This forum is all about cheap. Cheap rocks!
 
2door said:
I'm only going to say one thing. When I buy tools I look at them as an investment. Not for something I can return 'when it breaks'.

When I reach for a tool I want it to do its job and remain in one piece and do what it was designed and made to do. I don't want to have to get in my car and drive to where I bought it to get a new one.

Cheap tools are just that; cheap tools.

Tom
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This is exactly why I have at least 2 of everything at the shop... tools are gonna break regardless of the name stamped on the side or how much they cost. I got thousands in harbor freight receipts just since July when I opened up my shop and so far all the wrenches and sockets have done very well for the amount of abuse they gotta take on a daily basis.... still just one socket is all that broke on me but that was kinda my fault... a very badly rust locked caliper pin on a big one ton dually... a 13mm 3/8" drive deep socket on an3/8 to 1/2" adapter and a 1/2" drive impact... yup the socket broke before the pin broke free... I think I finally got that pin to break free only after about a 1/2 hour soak in Pb blaster and using a 6 point 13mm impact socket and letting the impact hammer the **** out of it...
but yeah, I definitely need tools I can depend on and if they can hold up to the daily abuse of doing brakes, alignments, and suspension repairs all day 6 days a week then they can definitely hold up for a LONG time for doing bike repairs and home use or general shop use...

I really wasn't expecting the tools to do very well in that type of use but they're doing well enough that I don't need to buy the ultra expensive snap on or Mac stuff... I do have a set of Mac wrenches I paid over $400 for about 15 years ago and they still look new but when I can get a wrench set with the same sizes for $27 I would rather buy 2 or 3 sets so I have one set on my tool kart and another set in the alignment pit, and a spare set innthe stock room just in case one does break.. but so far they can hold up to everything I throw at them and I throw a LOT their way...
 
fatdaddy said:
If you can afford it, go for it. An auto set is gonna have a lot of tools that have nothing to do with bikes. With this one all yer gonna need is a few tools for the 2 stroke stuff and a way to carry everything, cause ya NEVER want to go anywhere without yer tools. FIRST time ya do you'll break down 10 miles from the garage and yer toolbox. TRUST me , I know.
fatdaddy.
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I agree.. that's a good kit to have if your budget allows... it has a lot of the special tools you wont find in an automotive type tool kit, and everything in that kit can be put in a soft case that can be easily carried on the bike just in case something goes wrong while out on a ride and you're way away from home.
 
Davezilla said:
I agree.. that's a good kit to have if your budget allows... it has a lot of the special tools you wont find in an automotive type tool kit, and everything in that kit can be put in a soft case that can be easily carried on the bike just in case something goes wrong while out on a ride and you're way away from home.
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Of all roadside breakdowns we experience, which granted is pretty low for us hehe, it leans more towards bike parts failure than engine type failures.

For the shop however it's good tools and lots of them.

That in itself poses another tool issue, finding the size tool you want in a sea of silver tools with small writing, especially if you get your SAE and Metric tools mixed up.

I had 10 custom 'sticker strips' made up and it sure has helped us around the shop.

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We have done every metric wrench and socket in the shop as we go for a month now and I still have metric stickers left.

With the vector art and print programing it cost me $100 for the first 10 and one sheet is plenty for most anyone.

Next up is the same thing but in fractions and a different color for easy ID.
I have like 8 sheets of the metrics left if you want one for $9.95 delivered.
http://kcsparts.com/products/kcs-tool-labels-metric

If there is enough interest I'll do the initial investment to get the fraction labeled ones done as well.

After that in runs of 100 sheets right here locally it's like $1 a sheet so if you want to help a guy that is always trying to improve things, buy one of my metric sheets and I'll send you a fraction sheet when they are done ;-}
 
That's a good idea to label all your tools since they can get mixed up rather easily once taken out of their holders or in a tool bag etc... I've painted all my metric tools before and when I get the time to do them all again I'm planning on powder caoting all the metric tools dark grey like that cast iron grey color since this is a very tough and permanent type finish and it sticks to chrome really well once sandblasted. I got a color coded socket set from HF back when I opened up my shop and once ya get the colors memorized to what size they are it's real fast and easy to grab the right one even when everything is piled on a tool kart.
As for the powder coating, it goes on fast and easy, then everything has to bake for 10 minutes at 400F but it does take a while to sandblast everything... so far I'm finding that part to be the most time consuming part of the process.
 
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