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Tom from Rubicon said:
Rick said "I'm waiting on a review from Tom on his purchase."
I just ordered the MEILAN M3 Mini GPS Bike Computer
$36.91 tax included, free shipping arrive August 16.
Be patient Rick, just cause I post a thrifty link is not indicative of me pulling the trigger.
Done now. Report forth coming.
I had in house, a Hall effect speedometer, purchased for my Huffy Davidson.
Huffy instead received a old school analog cable driven unit because I liked the re-settable odometer to keep track of individual rides though I never kept a log. Me bad again.
Tom

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M3 Mini GPS was at the door before breakfast. Hash browns, baked bacon, eggs over sleasy in EVO, with English Muffins.
Bounding out the door and there it was. Intractably packaged by Amazon. Into the shop, and extricating from multiple packaging. Excitement turns to disillusion. The stock out of the box mounting system is designed handle bar goose neck in line with the frame. Well my Sportsman Flyer was never stock out of the box. Not that I couldn't afford one.
The frame and drive train, plus other SF goodies were incorporated into my build. But my handle bar gooseneck is from a salvaged mountain bike. So the as designed mount system will provide only one orientation. WTF? the rubber saddle has molded in holes that mate with molded in posts of the GPS mounting frame. Another pair would allow handle bar mounting but they are not there. Stupid simple had it been incorporated. They have a handle bar mount "sold separately".
Over all the unit is a nicely engineered instrument. Empirical data to follow. Tomorrow is another clinic visit for Mona.
Tom
 
Tom from Rubicon said:
M3 Mini GPS was at the door before breakfast. Hash browns, baked bacon, eggs over sleasy in EVO, with English Muffins.
Bounding out the door and there it was. Intractably packaged by Amazon. Into the shop, and extricating from multiple packaging. Excitement turns to disillusion. The stock out of the box mounting system is designed handle bar goose neck in line with the frame. Well my Sportsman Flyer was never stock out of the box. Not that I couldn't afford one.
The frame and drive train, plus other SF goodies were incorporated into my build. But my handle bar gooseneck is from a salvaged mountain bike. So the as designed mount system will provide only one orientation. WTF? the rubber saddle has molded in holes that mate with molded in posts of the GPS mounting frame. Another pair would allow handle bar mounting but they are not there. Stupid simple had it been incorporated. They have a handle bar mount "sold separately".
Over all the unit is a nicely engineered instrument. Empirical data to follow. Tomorrow is another clinic visit for Mona.
Tom
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Tom my initial reaction as well, but on examining the mount system I received I found the GPS can be inserted into the mount in quarter turn increments which allows the mount to be installed in either a vertical or horizontal orientation and then the twist off GPS can be installed. If your mount isn't designed this way I say bummer, because this mount system is the berries for theft prevention (remove and carry in your pocket) and for charging indoors on the lap top. If your mount isn't like mine I'll order more from China direct and patiently wait for delivery.

Gps photo shows orientation on the bars with mount, but not yet adjusted to the proper bar position and secured with two nylon zip ties.

Rick C.
 

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Two hour ride on the e-MB & 25.5 miles later I'm refreshed and ready to work. Lot of hills & no hurry I also stopped and watched the Prairie Dogs play and socialize at one mid-size dog town. Fascinating creatures!

When my new camera comes in coming I'm hoping to get some snaps to share. They are small and hard to approach closer than 50 yards, unlike the "dogs" which are in parks and get use to bribes of chips and bread from human visitors...these are wild and free of excess. My Android is useless at range.

Rick C.
 
Oh & Tom the one negative of the Meilan GPS speedo is that battery charge using full time during a ride is maybe 4 hours, now that's what I've seen to date, but lithium batteries I've noticed seem to not charge fully the first few times they are charged so my numbers may improve. If they don't I can charge on the fly using an adapter & extension to my bikes battery pack & that fortunately is a straight plug in arrangement. My phones operate the same way. Use the device while charging. Some of my current riding is 5 hrs. plus so 4 hrs. discharge rate isn't good for me.

Rick C.
 
indian22 said:
Two hour ride on the e-MB & 25.5 miles later I'm refreshed and ready to work. Lot of hills & no hurry I also stopped and watched the Prairie Dogs play and socialize at one mid-size dog town. Fascinating creatures!

When my new camera comes in coming I'm hoping to get some snaps to share. They are small and hard to approach closer than 50 yards, unlike the "dogs" which are in parks and get use to bribes of chips and bread from human visitors...these are wild and free of excess. My Android is useless at range.

Rick C.
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Don't Okies, yourself excluded know Prairie Dogs harbor bubonic plague? This is my take on dogs.
www.okshooters.com

Where to go for prairie dogs?

I am new to hunting....what can I say, I was born in New Jersey! I have been asking around on where I might be able to go find prairie dog hunting (preferably for free?) and have yet to receive any solid straight forward advice. So, the first question is where can I go for this? Second, what...
www.okshooters.com www.okshooters.com
Tom
 
Yep Pete they do, and pose ranching and grass management issues as well. We shot them for years, but no amount of shooting pressure slows the populations, gov't. poison will however kill the towns. I had a custom rifle built chambered for 25-06 wildcat round with dies, this was a number of years before the round became a factory load. 20x Unertyl target scope, single shot built around a pre-64 Winchester action. Heavy Douglas premium barrel & Timkin pull to set/release fire at 4oz. Full float synthetic stock. All state of the art at he time. This was my dog gun and a half inch shooter. Off sand bags set up on the roof of a pickup and seated on a high stool mounted in the bed I felt bad about taking a shot at less than 700 yards, if the wind was relatively calm. I'm gonna' get some hate mail on this post!

A stranger wanting to hunt dogs with a pump up pellet gun would be out of luck around here. Metro hunters screwed the pooch many years ago in this area.

I'm all for hunting, but don't any longer. I'd rather just watch them play till an owl or hawk gets them...govt. hunter will eventually kill them all. As you said they carry some badd ju-ju mon!

We didn't touch the dogs just left them lay; the birds of prey and coyotes took care of the carcasses.

Rick C.
 
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indian22 said:
Tom my initial reaction as well, but on examining the mount system I received I found the GPS can be inserted into the mount in quarter turn increments which allows the mount to be installed in either a vertical or horizontal orientation and then the twist off GPS can be installed. If your mount isn't designed this way I say bummer, because this mount system is the berries for theft prevention (remove and carry in your pocket) and for charging indoors on the lap top. If your mount isn't like mine I'll order more from China direct and patiently wait for delivery.

Gps photo shows orientation on the bars with mount, but not yet adjusted to the proper bar position and secured with two nylon zip ties.

Rick C.
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I found the GPS can be inserted into the mount in quarter turn increments
You are right Rick, but the rubber saddle only has two molded holes for stem mounting.
So when Mona and I returned from the cancer clinic in Milwaukee, I went to the shop and pressing the hard GPS mounting interface into the rubber saddle left impressions. Barely discernable points which I spun a #49 drill thru in both locations a quarter turn from the molded holes. That done the saddle GPS connection accepted my new holes in the saddle. Next was putting two provided zip ties per side. I don't have problems with inanimate objects but using the two per side provided zip ties was a test, a couple of bottles of
Leinenkugel's Berry Weiss
. Fitted right of the goose neck, the full assembly is a unobtrusive handle bar mount. Photos soon.
GPS is charging as I write.
Tom
 
indian22 said:
Yep Pete they do, and pose ranching and grass management issues as well. We shot them for years, but no amount of shooting pressure slows the populations, gov't. poison will however kill the towns. I had a custom rifle built chambered for 25-06 wildcat round with dies, this was a number of years before the round became a factory load. 20x Unertyl target scope, single shot built around a pre-64 Winchester action. Heavy Douglas premium barrel & Timkin pull to set/release fire at 4oz. Full float synthetic stock. All state of the art at he time. This was my dog gun and a half inch shooter. Off sand bags set up on the roof of a pickup and seated on a high stool mounted in the bed I felt bad about taking a shot at less than 700 yards, if the wind was relatively calm. I'm gonna' get some hate mail on this post!

A stranger wanting to hunt dogs with a pump up pellet gun would be out of luck around here. Metro hunters screwed the pooch many years ago in this area.

I'm all for hunting, but don't any longer. I'd rather just watch them play till an owl or hawk gets them...govt. hunter will eventually kill them all. As you said they carry some badd ju-ju mon!

We didn't touch the dogs just left them lay; the birds of prey and coyotes took care of the carcasses.

Rick C.
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Good taste Rick, on shooting irons. 25.06 cal. My version is a Browning 1878 Highwall. I know a fellow in Oregon that harvests Elk with it. You being in the wild catting stage. Did you mix and match loading dies? Interesting history of the 30-06 variant.
Tom
 
Tom I'm glad the provided tube mount was modifiable...you got her done! The factory obviously has at least two mounts variance options & possibly three.

I like the bold script, I've vision impairment & the bold pops on my lap top.

Wild cats were my first center fire passion. Started with 22 Hornet & fire formed case Hornet K, then the 220 Swift...these were already Wildcats that the factories had adopted and produced rifles and ammo for. The Hornet was a decent performer out to 200 yds. on quiet days & the Swift over 300 but wind was a problem with the light pills. Prairie dogs don't like being shot at the noise alone puts them on high alert after the first shot is fired. I now relate to that. Though a first shot might be from a 100 yards the second would have to be taken much further back, 200 plus yards and each shot drove them underground so shots were taken ten to 30 minutes apart. Barrels cooled too much in between. One benefit was the 220 Swift barrel life was greatly extended. I also tried the 225 Winchester & 22-250 in this time frame, both of which had been Wild cats but adopted by the factories as standard loads. I killed Turkey, Fox, Coyote, Crow and Bobcat as well with all these standard weight firearms (the Swift was a heavy barrel version) calling each except the Crow which at that time we had the world's largest Crow population in peanuts just 40 miles to the East.

My itch for a 25-06 rifle came from the great sports editor Warren Page & an article he wrote on Wildcats, he was a great advocate for varmint hunting and target shooting with these calibers. He mentioned the 25-06 as the solution for taking Groundhogs at what seemed to me impossible ranges of 600 to 700 yards back East. He went on to credit Mashburn Arms in Oklahoma City with building the best rifles chambered in this caliber and the dies to load the round. I had already purchased several of my rifles (used) from them and they were first class. Long story cut way short I had them build my first and second custom varmint guns, both 25-06, the first a Winchester model 70 action and the second a Remington 600.

These rifles allowed me to park and shoot out of the bed of my pickup at ranges that did not set the dogs to alert. I could shoot at 600 yards and they didn't detect the sound as danger. I did however learn that any misses needed to be high, because if the shot fell short and kicked dirt on them they then went on alert, not always though. I had many dogs that did backflips and then examined the ground in front of them, more curious than alert. Miss high all day and they went about their business as normal . Kills also put them on alert but death to unknown causes didn't keep them in their burrows too long. Long range shooting was the key to a potentially good shoot. This was not hunting, it was just shooting (there is a big difference) to eradicate & limit the towns spread in area.

I was very fortunate to live here and to be so close to Mashburn arms, as a teenager I was typically the only customer in the shop under the age of forty or fifty, so it took a couple of purchases and answering a lot of my questions before they started taking me seriously; then they treated me like family, great memories and great people. Mashburn arms was one of the cradles of Wildcat development in the forties and fifties & stamped that name in shooting history.

I also like new stuff especially when it becomes old!

Rick C.
 
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Tom from Rubicon said:
Good taste Rick, on shooting irons. 25.06 cal. My version is a Browning 1878 Highwall. I know a fellow in Oregon that harvests Elk with it. You being in the wild catting stage. Did you mix and match loading dies? Interesting history of the 30-06 variant.
Tom
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The 25-06 is an outstanding Mountain gun in sport weight. Many Elk are taken each year with it. As good as it gets on Muley's too. I'd think Elk is really the edge on big game for well placed body shots that really put an animal down quickly. Meat quality quickly suffers from hormone contamination if the animal runs very far after the shot.

Heavy game dictates increased bullet weight and the 25 starts to loose out to 30 caliber at the Elk Size & toughness game. A Manitoba Moose taught me a painful lesson in using enough gun after it fled into waist deep, ice cold water before dying. Hypothermia is a real thing quartering an animal in the water. It was far to heavy to retrieve whole. The meat remarkably was wonderful, probably because it was chilled so quickly.

Tom I like the highwall action & Browning does such a great job of recreating firearms from the past. Many of the early Wildcats were built using the highwall action it's really very strong.

I like single shot rifles and the 270 is one I've hunted with since it came out in a Ruger #1 my favorite White tail round & rifle. I
never chase a missed shot with an immediate second so plenty of time to chamber in case the animal stops to look back still within range.

Snap shooting in thick timber and close range a 30-30 lever gun is a favorite for getting off a couple of quick shots. Not cover I enjoy hunting in but in the deep south it's pretty typical.

Rick C.
 
Dog Leg 600 eh? Always wanted one, But I wanted most any shooting iron I didn't already own.
Wild catting I only did once to bring a 1868 Vetterli back into service. It used a 10.4x38 rim fire cartilage, long out of production. There is a lot of documentation on conversion to centerfire using 8mm Lebel brass.
Fortunately Lee Precision is only minutes from my house. There had been hobbyist interest that they had in inventory a set of dies and a single cavity mold. So I stopped in at their reception and placed my order. Must not have happened too often as the Plant Manager brought my order up. Fun to shoot at the range. I get alot of "What is that".
GPS is charged up, I guess I will find out if this Flyer really flies.
Tom
 
My first load set was A Lee paid $10. for a 222 Remington, slow but worked. Truly handloading!

Having a true resource close by is a is so beneficial to a hobbyist. Rimfires would make an interesting study I've had and may still have a few civil war era rimfire cartridges and a couple of "paper" cartridges that I believe were Union ordinance. I bet you do get some comments at the range.

Tom be safe on your speed runs & hope the readings and the instrument are up to your expectations.

Rick C.
 
Rick,
Here is the most definitive source of the Swiss Vetterli service rifle 1868. The link on my browser says not secure.
It is a really old site, but all links are still active and has never caused my computer trouble


A few years back a now deceased friend knowing I had been doing good work on Swiss rifles had acquired a 1911 Schmidt-Rubin straight pull bolt action from Sportsman Guide.
Variants produced until 1958 known as the K31.
The 1911, 7.5x55 used a copper casing and a smokeless powder load that it could function without bursting.
Jimmy had a rifle and no way to get his gun off as the K31 was loaded to 762 NATO brass levels.
I did some searching, with the conversion from copper case with rounded shoulder of the 1911 to the sharp shouldered K31casing. The chamber reamers must not have changed or depth..
I bought a box of K31 ammo from,
https://www.grafs.com/
My Nosler loading manual had data for both the 1911 and K31
So using a RCBS bullet puller unloaded the 20, reset my Lyman powder loader dropped twenty loads of 1911 pressure.
.My RCBS 7.5x55 dies did their job.
Unloaded brass experienced zero head space interference. and the final product calipered with in .005" OAL
.
Jimmy took delivery of his antique. I told him to do what my Grandpa Elmer Olson told me how he proofed a shotgun fifty years his senior, he was born in 1892. Backed to a stump and cord to the trigger. Long ways off, He was going to shoot a hawk. Chamber burst. Lucky Hawk

Jim used the same procedure to proof the first load. Non event, Bolt cycled freely and then gifted that Swiss rifle to a nephew. Grrr.
I now have a profound respect for Swiss straight pull bolt action rifles. The K31's have full float barrels way ahead of the game in 1931. Accuracy is as good as your eyesight. Scope mounted versions were produced Sniper = $$$$.
Swiss Precision.

Never did a Flyer run today. Lots of bad posture bending doing various and sundry tasks and Honey-Do's. Finally about 4:30 I rolled the Flyer out, standing on the left side I wrapped the starter rope and as I rose my back was ready to spasm. That was it. Test cancelled due to faulty equipment. ME. :mad:
Tom
 
Thanks Tom for your explanation on the "brass" & how this firearm was brought back to life. I've shot match with some European shooters that turned in some great paper at a thousand using reworked Swede Mausers. It's by far a superior rendition...the Italian & Argentine aren't worthy of bother even as a sporter.

My take on Swiss drillings, rifles and handguns. Pricy but if one can afford them wonderfully crafted and precision work.

Bummer on the back Tom get better.

I'm off for a longer ride today, Light wind, overcast skies and high Eighties 10% chance of rain I gotta' ride!

Action camera due in today so I'll lean a bit about it's functions tonight. With another bar mount my MB bars will be packed. Even without the bags installed it really has the look of a part time packing bike in daily use. A fork rack would complete that look & be helpful even in day to day use around town.

I've spent some time researching bike solar power for long rides & it's feasible with folding blanket panels at 300 to 400 watts full day stops along the path, but not practical under way unless pulling a trailer and no wind. Plenty of Sun here and unfortunately just as much wind. I'd get more bang for the buck by adding lithium packs & extra chargers to refuel in a one night motel stay every two or three days on a really long ride.

My MB seat post rack needs some beef up mods to stabile and carry three lithium packs and large panniers. Full suspension so I've not many options for attachment other than the seat post tube, which is lined with a 10" tube already. A strong angled support brace from tube to rack should do it. I've 30 + pounds of batteries on the rack as it sits without any problems, but adding another forty is just asking for failure along the way.

My trailer is an answer, but I've run into a problem on wheel rim width with the No flat tubes, so I'll need to locate wider wheels in 16" to mount the 2.4" width tires, with the no-flat tubes.

Rick C.
 
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Action camera came in and works way better than the operator. I spent quite a bit of time getting it set up with the typical lack of info manual and the suggested download of phone app for remote operation with an Android that was soooo bad, less than a one star in my rating system. Then I tried several more apps before finding one that connects up well and seems to function too with some nice features, time will tell...but I've a lot to learn about camera settings and such. I wish I'd done all this last Winter when I was looking about for things to occupy my time indoors.

I made progress so I'm ok with it, since photos download and edit simply to both Android and laptop. Learned a lot about how little I know & that too is awesome! By the time I figure the operation out maybe I'll actually build something worth some photos or at least shoot some decent scenes this Fall.


Rick C.
 
Oh yeah Tom that Remington 600 was the heavy duty 40x model target gun that needed almost no work to shot under half minute 5 shot groups on a machine rest, as proof from the factory, using 308, it's conversion to 25-06 was extravagant on my part but that's what I wanted and was used to. My Son has it now with the original Lyman target scope with fixed twenty power optics & external adjustments. Really retro at the range!

Apologies for calling you Pete in the prior post I know better.

Rick C.
 
indian22 said:
Action camera came in and works way better than the operator. I spent quite a bit of time getting it set up with the typical lack of info manual and the suggested download of phone app for remote operation with an Android that was soooo bad, less than a one star in my rating system. Then I tried several more apps before finding one that connects up well and seems to function too with some nice features, time will tell...but I've a lot to learn about camera settings and such. I wish I'd done all this last Winter when I was looking about for things to occupy my time indoors.

I made progress so I'm ok with it, since photos download and edit simply to both Android and laptop. Learned a lot about how little I know & that too is awesome! By the time I figure the operation out maybe I'll actually build something worth some photos or at least shoot some decent scenes this Fall.


Rick C.
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There is this thread to look back at on camera of which I posted some about the use of my cheapo : original SJCAM SJ4000 WIFI Version

https://motorbicycling.com/threads/which-camera-do-you-use.56452/ 2014 year

through

https://motorbicycling.com/threads/which-camera-do-you-use.56452/page-8 last Apr 2019

spacehttps:space//spacevimeo.comspace/117886338

remove the 4 occurances of spaces within the address above and paste in browser to show my Vimeo Video (Privacy Setting Issues Some How On MB Won't Allow.... this work around should allow to see

My Off Roading with OHV Licenced Motor Bike see 1min 45sec mark about where my helmet cam get branch up side the head and you can hear it. Goggles and all other riding gear on and didn't flinch but was a bit concerned.
 
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