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curtisfox

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I've been poking around the net and it seems categorizing tapered miils is usually done by just one side. McMaster. MSC. etc. They all list the taper that way.

I wish I knew more about this stuff ....
Looking at the bit it is round, so 3 degrees all the way around, or one side. But i don't know as much as you do so can't be for sure, I don't have a mill........Curt
 

FOG

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It has finally sunk thru my thick skull that they're categorized by the angle on one side only. What tipped it was looking at a 45 degree cutter. Clearly 45 on one side. That would be 90 included but it's still a 45 degree end mill.

And ya might know 6 degrees doesn't seem to be real common. McMaster skips from 5 to 7 for one. But I'm still lookin' ....
 

Tom from Rubicon

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It has finally sunk thru my thick skull that they're categorized by the angle on one side only. What tipped it was looking at a 45 degree cutter. Clearly 45 on one side. That would be 90 included but it's still a 45 degree end mill.

And ya might know 6 degrees doesn't seem to be real common. McMaster skips from 5 to 7 for one. But I'm still lookin' ....
7 degree would be fine. a little more air flow.
 

Tony01

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Don’t know, Tom. Just some part. Have to hit a .005 flatness on the two little steps, it’s not getting electroplated though so I’m ok. Part thickness is tight as well but everything else is plus minus ten so I can probably cut that flatness a couple times over if it needs more welding.

thankfully I have not had to make or repair molds... I don’t think im that good... I write nice programs though... this part wasn’t mine though it’s all messed up...
 

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I've lost a whole month over getting an angled cutter on this cylinder head ... but it was worth every minute! It looks so much better.

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Before it looked "blocky"? Is that a word? :)

Now it's light and airy and when I get some polishing done those extra angles are gonna look like the facets on a diamond.

Next up is I'm thinking about air flow. Because I'm using a horizontal motor that's actually the front of the head in the pic. Not the top. There are 3 more fins behind and except for the 1st one getting some air thru the 4 mounting holes the only air flow back there will be whatever spills over the top. Not much.

I'm thinking I'll slot a section all the way thru the 3 center slots, no structural issues there, and maybe drill, possibly slot, my way thru the ribs I left on each side.

But there's a combustion chamber on the other side and I don't wanna drill/slot my way thru that! Still thinkin'.
 

FOG

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I finished "ventilating" the front section of my cylinder head and it's finally off the mill! That took awhile ...

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But now I'm having 2nd thoughts about polishing it. There's just too many nooks and crannys! I'll at least have a shot at it but another option is hittin' with my soda blaster. That leaves a dull but smooth and very uniform surface that needs no care for just about forever. Here's a heatsink I made to mount a modern rectifier on my old Yamaha that I used the soda on. I've also used it fork legs. Carbs. It leaves a nice finish.

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I'll be painting the cylinder black either way so I will have some contrast with the head. We'll see .....
 

Tom from Rubicon

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Bill,
Your machining of the head, tapered fins and all exhibit clean cuts. If you have never done it before, take into the kitchen or laundry room, give the head a generous dose of dish soap, scrub with a bristle brush and rinse. Many times I have machined aluminum all clean cuts but until I washed it, it wasn't pretty. It will be.
Tom
 

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PeteMcP

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Hmmm.... I dunno... Your original plan with the media blasted head and contrasting black cylinder will be a great look. And it'll save a bunch of time and work with those Dremel felts. That said, time is something we all seem to have in abundance during Covid season - and your time comes free. Do it your way.