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silverbear

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I’ve seen that picture before and have wondered how the steering handled. I like the canoe a lot. Looks like maybe it simply strapped on to the sidecar frame and could be removed for paddling. Cool! If it had a sail rig you could shut off the motor going down wind. Or not.
Makes one think about the possibilities with adapting a small kayak as a sidecar. I’ve also eyeballed a Thule cartop carrier for it’s shape, but it would need to be glassed or something to beef it up. I do like re-purposing things…
SB
 

Tom from Rubicon

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Seems the Germans have developed the EV motor of your dreams. I have not found a reference to the power source needed. some talk of Hybrid option. I like the words 6 phase and Quark in the links. Two at ya.
Koenigsegg’s First Electric Motor Is a Tiny 335-HP Box of Engineering Magic (msn.com)

Koenigsegg introduces Quark Raxial Flux motor, David inverter and Terrier torque-vectoring e-drive unit - Green Car Congress

When they prove out the long sought after Flux Capacitor, DeLorean's will be hot again.

Tom
 

silverbear

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Seems the Germans have developed the EV motor of your dreams. I have not found a reference to the power source needed. some talk of Hybrid option. I like the words 6 phase and Quark in the links. Two at ya.
Koenigsegg’s First Electric Motor Is a Tiny 335-HP Box of Engineering Magic (msn.com)

Koenigsegg introduces Quark Raxial Flux motor, David inverter and Terrier torque-vectoring e-drive unit - Green Car Congress

When they prove out the long sought after Flux Capacitor, DeLorean's will be hot again.

Tom
Tom,
I sure don’t understand how that motor works. How much are they on Aliexpress? (Just kidding…)
 

silverbear

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Well, I got the lights more or less done. They have their new led units in place and one little 18650 lithium cell is currently giving them juice. Now all I have to do is everything else.
Steve, I sent off the tracing of the fender struts a couple of days ago. You should get them some time this year. No great hurry on fabricating anything for my build as I know you have lots on your plate already. All in good time.
Warmer weather today, almost 30 degrees above, a big improvement over the minus thirty last week, so I have fired up the wood stove in the shop as a preview of coming attractions (hopefully) next month when what passes for spring arrives in my neck of the woods. No spring flowers, but melting icycles is something to celebrate even if the snowpack lingers. Grandfather Sun, who looked like a goner back in December is gaining some strength and gives hope for ice out on the lakes by May and a glorious summer, just in time for bike camp… woohoo!
SB
 

silverbear

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Second time I noticed your industrial cat pans, this time with lumps. How is the air down there?


Tom
Tom, had I known of your interest in cat$hit I’d have taken closeups. To answer your question, the air is not so bad since our seven rescue cats only use the basement litter boxes (kiddie swimming pools) for #2, so need cleaning less often than the upstairs litter boxes they use for #1 which would get aromatic without daily cleaning. In the warmer months they prefer going outside through their cat window to the cat garden, a cat escape- proof fenced area of hardy plants and flowers.
SB
 

Tom from Rubicon

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I have had an interest in cat $hit since age 4. Seen a cat burying sumthin in Grandma's carrot patch. Got a hand full of what milk fed cats do. Shortly thereafter I straight armed a Tom Cat by the tail. Didn't know cats could climb their tail and detach the offender. After that, I was more particular about how to pick up a cat.
The mercurochrome was every ready back then.
Having over the years kept a herd of cats. I just never thought of kiddy pools used as such.
Neighbor up the hill has a couple of cats he has trained to come down and $hit in my yard.
Who says you can't train cats? :)

Tom
 

fasteddy

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It's motivation, Tom. Through a few cat treats into your yard and they are motivated. Just keep throwing the treats into your a little further every time.

I worked with a fella who used to repair cars in his buddies parents garage. The boys got to drinking beer as usual and they were constantly going into the house. Not a problem but the next door neighbour was. Tall hedge between the houses and down the full length of the yard but he'd call the city and complain about the boys cars in the driveway and the fact that there was a door or a fender in their driveway that didn't have a car attached to it.

The city inspector got tired of having to come out and look and told the fella next door that he was and was told tough luck that's what I pay my taxes for.

Now you mess with a bunch of young men in their late teens and twenties at your own peril. The solution was to get some 2" water pipe about 12' long drill it full of small holes, add a T in the middle and cap the ends and hop the fence and bury it between the board fence and the hedge and run a pipe connected to the T and bury it to the back corner of the garage and up into it ending at a comfortable height and add a funnel.

Mr. King of the Back Yard BBQ guy had some unpleasant summers until he moved a few years later. They'd hear him going back and forth on his hands and knees as he peered into the hedge trying to figure what was going on muttering to himself.
The garage blocked pretty much everything for them.

The folks who bought the house were pleasant so they went back to using the house but I guess by then the herd had thinned out and there weren't many guys left.

Steve.
 

Tom from Rubicon

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" The solution was to get some 2" water pipe about 12' long drill it full of small holes, add a T in the middle and cap the ends and hop the fence and bury it between the board fence and the hedge and run a pipe connected to the T and bury it to the back corner of the garage and up into it ending at a comfortable height and add a funnel."
That is pure genius! Thanks for sharing Steve.

Tom
 

fasteddy

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Tom,
What these boys could do to a 12 pack would have to be seen to be believed. The kid I worked with lived over the work shop and he had a wall of 12 pack beer boxes across his living room and as high as the ceiling in less than two months and there was just him. Other than the weekends and after work he was in the shop and he wasn't home most week ends and not that much after work. British Columbia only sold beer in 12 packs at that time in until the mid 1980's.

The city did get called but they heard him talking about it with his wife while they were in the back yard so they pulled the funnel and stuffed a rag in the pipe and stacked a bunch of wheel and tires in front of it.

Steve.
 

silverbear

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And of course this is something you heard about, right? I mean you weren’t one of those bad garage boys were you? Probably not with choir practice and all.
Sometime share how you got your bike name, Steve…”Well if it isn’t fasteddy!!!”

I have a question for you. Since I’m running out of little things I can do to advance the Hiawatha build and pretty soon it will be warm enough that I can light a fire in the shop wood stove and get back to work on the electrike Terratrike Rovers which need to be ready for spring thaw riding sometime in April or May… and the question is… what do I need to order to finish up the Hiawatha disc brakes? If I remember correctly we have the same basic front end as on your camelback. The rotors are in place already, but need calipers. Will mine mount in the same place and manner as yours? What did you order or is there a set you’d recommend? It seems to me that usually a set is one for front and one for back… do they need to be the same (like two fronts)? You can tell from my questions that I know next to nothing about disc brakes. If they are ordered through Aliexpress then it would be good to do it soon to allow for sometimes glacial shipping from China.

February may technically be the shortest month, but always feels like the longest. Lots of snow lately with a couple feet of snowpack and very cold. Minus thirty eight was the coldest night so far. Come on spring…
SB
 

fasteddy

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I was kind of sorry I wasn't part of that one, Silverbear. I was an inventive kid and a well know little shyte disturber and that would have been so right up my alley. Alas I was in my 40's and this character was one of my bosses sons.

Fast Eddy is born.

The old dad wouldn't let me get my license until I was 18 for good reason. Then I could get it myself without a parent signing. I will admit to having a rather cavalier attitude towards authority. Your only guilty if they catch you at it.

My uncle, dads older brother, sold cars for a Chevrolet dealership and when I got my license dad took me down to see my uncle and buy me a car. A very little used but very rusty 1953 Mercury Meteor 4 door.with 60,000 miles. Canadian model only, Ford.

It had a Mercury 255ci V8 and not the 239ci V8. I got that car in a lot of trouble.

We all hung out in a small local mall with a restaurant and one night a guy who thought he was the alpha male rolls in his 1955 Chrysler. John Otis part of the Otis Elevator, Otis's. He was 350 pounds of mean on a 5'10" frame. A lot of dads money does stupid things to people.

We had had a few run ins and he still claimed he could out run the Meteor with his car. I usually ignored him but that night wasn't the night. Standard race place was getting really popular with the police so we went up the city street that ran past the mall to a cross street and started.

My well oiled friend decided he'd wave us off. Now I have to stop and pick him up. then catch Mr. Otis. Having done that and just as he was getting left behind I passed a side street. I looked over and there were two police cars pulled up each one facing the opposite direction so the drivers could talk and right near the road we are on.

The light comes on and all I could do is pull over. They knew my car so it was the only smart thing to do. I'm sitting there contemplating the size of the fine and the length of time my license and I would be parted when Officer Friendly, his first name was Not appears at the window, looks over at my friend, a notorious scamp and well known at #3 Traffic, then looks at me, breaks into a large smile and says "Well, if it isn't, Fast Eddy."

Officer Not Friendly had us on the curb/kurb for at least 10 solid minutes reading the two of us the riot act about speeding, listing the fines I was libel for, lost of license time, Sweet Mercy. That long?, That much?, while the other officer was roasting Mr. Otis at the same time.

The fine, since we looked sufficiently chastised was 10 miles over the limit. It hurt and cost us a couple of points on our license. We weren't on radar and we could have fought it but it was a well know fact that if you did when they did catch you on radar they would spend time safety inspecting your car and writing up anything they could then looking to see what else they could charge you with that might be in the rule book. They had a few standards such as reckless or careless driving.

You had to try and get out of the charges if they might be shady. We couldn't afford a lawyer.

Me? Guilty as they come. I looked down at the speedometer when I saw the cops and it read 90mph. I was in a 30mph zone.

Steve.
 
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fasteddy

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Silverbear,
I used front brakes. The calipers should all be the same. I'd look at the way they mount on the tri car and match the caliper you buy to them. I believe they are standard mounts.

The left one went on normally and the right side caliper had to be turned up side down I think. I'll check tomorrow and let you know.

It went to 17F this winter with snow and a few very serious atmospheric rivers that caused pounding rain and major flooding and road washouts cutting parts of British Columbia off from the rest of Canada and severing rail traffic. However the crocus are up and in flower and the temperature are in the upper 40's and occasional low 50's F.

Summers coming and with it bike camp.

Steve.