please help!! I wanna buy this bike&engine tommrrow !!

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KCvale

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To me it's just seeing the number for the size.

A whole number is metric, a fraction is American, easy.

I just want to spot the size I need on a bench or next to me on the floor awash in wrenches but mostly sockets with 2 different drive sizes, etc.

Ohh, and there is no such thing as too many different tools to handle 10mm nuts and bolts ;-}
 
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Davezilla

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Yup... I probably got at least 10 of those 10mm wrenches in different parts of my shop since it's the most common metric size... just can't seem to have enough of them no matter what I'm doing whether it's on the cars, motorcycles, or bicycles, they all use this size on just about everything.

For me, as long as I can quickly tell the difference between the standard and metric tools that's good enough for the wrenches, the sockets on the other hand I do need to see the size as well as tell the difference between the 2 since the sockets are harder to tell the size just by looking them... Especially on a lot of the mid 80's on up Fords & GM's since they can't make up their mind whether to go standard or metric... the newer ones are a lot better about being all metric, but for a while there you'd need both sets of tools to do anything on these...
 
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crassius

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I buy lots of cheap plastic toolboxes at 99cent store - they fall apart fast, but I have a box for tools used on each particular job.
 

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If it wasn't for the cheap tools I wouldn't have any tools at all. It's not like I'm working on Big Rigs, Just MB's and my car once in a while. So the name imprinted on the tool don't mean jack to me.
And yeah, NEVER too many 10mm wrenches and sockets. When I'm in the shop I just put a 10mm wrench in my pocket. Saves time looking for one every 5 minutes.
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KCvale

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I buy lots of cheap plastic toolboxes at 99cent store - they fall apart fast, but I have a box for tools used on each particular job.
That's a good idea.
Just a little box to take outside or wherever to do a specific job like brakes or carb.

My wife bought me one of those ~175 part Craftsman plastic 'briefcase' tool boxes with ASE and Metric tools for my birthday or Christmas 2 decades ago in daily use.

Screwdrivers are what get me.

I keep a complete set of the best ones, and there is a pile of 'Primitive Pete' screwdrivers.
Basically a pile of tools to pry and bend and beat with heheheh.

Hey Mike, did you get enough tool advice?

Sorry man, around here once a problem is done other things can come up to chat about.
 
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Davezilla

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Hey Mike, did you get enough tool advice?

Sorry man, around here once a problem is done other things can come up to chat about.
hahaha... Never a good idea to bring up tooling if you don't want to hear a LOT of advice on what to get or how to set up your kits etc... This is a good thing tho and everyone's gotta tell about their tools or how they put their kits together etc... I'm pretty well setup but I always pick up a good idea or 3 when a conversation like this breaks out...

Since I'm on the move from opening time to closing time at the shop I took all my hand tools out of the roll away boxes and put them all on those metal karts, one has solid shelves so it holds all my wrenches and smaller tools, and the other has hose wire type shelves so it holds all my pliers, extensions, air ratchets and impact guns, and anything else I can hang thru the mesh without falling thru. On the one with flat sheet metal shelves I bought a bunch of those long magnetic strips you bolt to the wall to hang tools from, but I bolted them to the top shelf on that kart so the wrenches can sit in order and not slide off when moving it from inside the shop to the lift outside. I've also got a piece of sheet metal cut to fit on the cross bar on my alignment rack so I can keep all my tools right there too.

and... here's a simlpe trick everyone should know... If anyone has those little telescoping magnets for picking up screws and nuts etc, they work ok for that, but what happens when you just dropped a 3/4" wrench and it's just out of reach? That's right... you super glue a small rare earth magnet to your favorite pickup magnet and now you can pick up about 2 pounds with it...
 

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Just for enquiring minds... Package was sent tonight once I got the shop closed up for the night... I thought I threw in a new mag coil, but when I got to the post office and put everything in the flat rate box I noticed I had the old one, it still works, but it's not as pretty as a new one... I held back on sending out that bottom end for now because I want to go thru it and make sure it's usable and there are no metal fragments down there from when the top end blew since there's a good size chunk missing from the cylinder at the transfer opening... I'll get it cleaned up tomorrow or monday and make sure the bearings and seals are ok or put new bearings and seals in it before sending it out.
 

crassius

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rotors seem to never go bad - must have 30 or more just lying around the shop to pick up things from under other things
 

mikeab13

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Dave thanks again! Monday Tuesday are my days off so I will have more pics!

Dave: yes, well kinda lol. I'm going to get a socket set with 6mm-19mm heads. If I get 1/4' socket set should that be good or do I need the 1/2' and 3/4' set to? Then I'm going to get the spark plug puller socket, hex keys, vice grips, adjustable wrench, spoke wrench, voltage meter. Will this be good for installing the engine an checking everything to make sure it works?
 

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Mike, I'd suggest starting with a 3/8" drive set. An adapter makes it easy to use 1/4" drive sockets (carefully), and even 1/2" drive sockets occasionally. It's the most useful size for general stuff.
You definitely want two 10mm box wrenches, and a second 10mm socket is super handy. I've found lots of uses for a good 8" or so pair of channel locks- worth the money in my opinion.
Zip-ties, 10mm box wrench, maybe a multitool, a spare tube and the tools to fix a flat should go with you everywhere. Also, when you first start riding, you should have the wrench that tightens your motor mounts with you. I always make sure there's good tension after riding a few minutes on a new build, and then pretty regularly for a few rides. This could be because I'm smart- or because I'm paranoid. Either way, it works;)
I often use a 3/8" drive socket (old one) on a 2" extension, to tap with a hammer as I tighten, to get my rear wheels where they need to be in the dropouts for proper chain tension. That socket is usually 15mm. I've never broken one, but you'd better have two just in case.
Pawn shops are great for an extra socket or wrench, usually just a few cents each. Dig around the bin, I find Craftsman and other good stuff for nearly nothing.

Two other things;

I forget... Has anyone mentioned that you would be better served by not using a chain tensioner? At least the kit provided one. If you take your time and get your chains just so, there is usually no need for any tensioner. I never use them and have never had a problem. It's less parts to fail, less parasitic drag, less noise, and less ugly.

Also, have you signed on to the member map? It's a cool feature here.

You're coming along nicely with some real good advice from these folks!

Trey
 

mikeab13

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Thanks Tray! I have tried sighing up on the map but theirs something wrong with my phone so I'll have to sign up next time I'm at the library. I'm going to gold pawn fight now an afterwards to harbor freight show you my goodies in awhile.
 

KCvale

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What is the difference in high visibility sockets an regular sockets??
High Visibility sockets just have bigger numbers etched in them to be easier to read, which all of them should have always done.

None are big enough for me to spot in a pile of silver so I had stickers made for my tools.




Will I need a special connection tool or are they all universal?
If a socket is for a 3/8" drive that is the size tool to connect to turn it, 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2" are the standards.
No, the writing on the socket does not mean a new odd drive size ;-}
 
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fatdaddy

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Mike, I'd suggest starting with a 3/8" drive set. An adapter makes it easy to use 1/4" drive sockets (carefully), and even 1/2" drive sockets occasionally. It's the most useful size for general stuff.
You definitely want two 10mm box wrenches, and a second 10mm socket is super handy. I've found lots of uses for a good 8" or so pair of channel locks- worth the money in my opinion.
Zip-ties, 10mm box wrench, maybe a multitool, a spare tube and the tools to fix a flat should go with you everywhere. Also, when you first start riding, you should have the wrench that tightens your motor mounts with you. I always make sure there's good tension after riding a few minutes on a new build, and then pretty regularly for a few rides. This could be because I'm smart- or because I'm paranoid. Either way, it works;)
I often use a 3/8" drive socket (old one) on a 2" extension, to tap with a hammer as I tighten, to get my rear wheels where they need to be in the dropouts for proper chain tension. That socket is usually 15mm. I've never broken one, but you'd better have two just in case.
Pawn shops are great for an extra socket or wrench, usually just a few cents each. Dig around the bin, I find Craftsman and other good stuff for nearly nothing.

Two other things;

I forget... Has anyone mentioned that you would be better served by not using a chain tensioner? At least the kit provided one. If you take your time and get your chains just so, there is usually no need for any tensioner. I never use them and have never had a problem. It's less parts to fail, less parasitic drag, less noise, and less ugly.

Also, have you signed on to the member map? It's a cool feature here.

You're coming along nicely with some real good advice from these folks!

Trey
I agree about the tensioner, IF ya can get by without it. Sometimes though its the only way to keep the chain off the frame.
 

mikeab13

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Harbor freight run!!! Spent 40 on the set. Has 3/8 an 1/4 sproket with 5mm- 18mm with 16 hex keys spark plug puller. An a bunch of other goodies. PLUS I got an open box dremel variable speed for 15bucks! Only 2 sanding bits an a polishing bit so I think a good deal
 

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