Need Help Please Wont Start

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MikeBike

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hi all. i installed my 1st china kit from ebay, and i got it all up and running lastnight about 12:00 and whent for a 10 mile bike ride, did proper brake in, i shut it off a couple of times last night wile rideing to take a rest and started it no problem.

carb settings: 1/2 choke.

so i put it away last night and did not changed the carb settings.
when i tryed to start it this morning it whould not start:eek:.

so i check all my settings, carb, wireing, fuel line, spark plug, cluch.

try agin and agin and agin(you know how it go's)

and still know starty. WTF!!

i am so flusterd...

the piston turns, it does the chug-chug sound, i have know idea what it might be rong. help please. i think i need a new CDI any realy good ones?

thank you all
 

OSCAR383

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the first thing that went on me is the intake gasket after my first semi-long ride . if you cant see the gasket material on the top or bottom of the intake its probably blown . and will have to go to the part store and buy a sheet of felpro gasket paper. when the piston goes up and dosn it makes pulses in the intake which alternate from vacume to pressure and the cheap gaskets they come with give way sometimes more offen than none
 

Bikeguy Joe

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Check for spark.
Check to make sure you have adequate fuel flow to the float bowl. (push the tickler down until fuel flows out of it)

If those two don't do it, take the intake off, and use some RTV or other silicone and seal both sides of the gasket, or what's left of it.
 

MikeBike

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so what i am getting here is ether:

1 i am not getting any spark
or
2 i am not getting proper compression (the seal)

so how would i check if i get any spark?

and if i take off the intake tube (going from carb to piston) should i expect any thing flying off like a spring or something like that.

i really appreciate all the help thank you
 

Motormac

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Try it again with full choke, when it starts to sputter slowly open the choke to 1/2, once its warmed up after running for a minute open the choke to full open (down) position. let me know if this works. Mac
 

Egor

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It is flooded mine has done the same thing a few times. I just hold the throttle wide open and pedal no choke and fuel off. It will start and blubbers till it is clear. No worry some of the petcocks are not good and the carb weeps down the intake and fills the crankcase. Have fun, Dave

PS: You may to have to pedal quite a few feet, keep going.
 
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Venice Motor Bikes

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so what i am getting here is ether:

1 i am not getting any spark
or
2 i am not getting proper compression (the seal)

so how would i check if i get any spark?



To check for spark, take out the spark plug & put it back into the wire-boot.
Then spin the rear wheel while holding the spark plug base to the engine head. (make sure the clutch is OFF so that you are spinning engine too!)
The engine will turn over real easy with the plug out.
Either the plug will be making sparks, or it won't...
tell us what you find.
 
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MikeBike

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Try it again with full choke, when it starts to sputter slowly open the choke to 1/2, once its warmed up after running for a minute open the choke to full open (down) position. let me know if this works. Mac
thanks motormac i tryed that and it was a know go, sorry
thank it was a good thought
 

MikeBike

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To check for spark, take out the spark plug & put it back into the wire-boot.
Then spin the rear wheel while holding the spark plug base the the engine head. (make sure the clutch is OFF so that you are spinning engine too!)
The engine will turn over real easy with the plug out.
Either the plug will be making sparks, or it won't...
tell us what you find.
hey Venice boy

i tryed that and guess what? no spark

all ya'll guest it

so i guess i need a ned CDI OR MAG

is there any really great replacements for these or should i order from dax?

i am thinking about ordering both try the CDI 1st and if tht doesnt work then replace the mag

thank for the help
i have never done stuff like this befor
 

Venice Motor Bikes

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hey Venice boy

i tryed that and guess what? no spark

all ya'll guest it

so i guess i need a ned CDI OR MAG

is there any really great replacements for these or should i order from dax?

i am thinking about ordering both try the CDI 1st and if tht doesnt work then replace the mag

thank for the help
i have never done stuff like this befor
IT'S THE MAG!!! (trust me!)
 

MikeBike

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Oct 7, 2008
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Venice boy do you sell parts?

if so can i buy a CDI and a MAG becuase i dont mind on have an extra one of ether.

one if you can sell me parts, it whould be cheap shiping becuase i live only 3 hour drive away from you (5 hour by motorbicycling lol(^) )

thanks for the help
 

MikeBike

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Oct 7, 2008
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welp i replaced the spark plug with a NKP. props to sickbikeparts.com !!

but still no spark so i am ordering a CDI and MAG from DAX, and spark plug cap from sickbikeparts.com. lets see if that works
 

MikeBike

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so both CDI and MAG are in the mail.
VB i had to get a new CDI becuz mine is has split by the mount hole.

i also got a 12" spark plug wire and a new airfilter from sickbikeparts.com.

i am looking forward to this.

soo how do i replace the MAG?
 

Norman

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I'm curious about your mag would you want to send the bad mag to me? I'll look it over and see if I can make it work and if so I will send it back to you.
you can either PM me or answer here on the forum.
Norman