Oil mixture

Sounds to me like an excuse/coverup for poor and sloppy manufacturing.
Another reason why I would never buy any Grubee product.


Probably eh? lol..Wow I am confused, but I agree with you all about this particular issue. Mine is the SD Stinger, but probably the same as a Grubee...who the heck knows.

My patients has grown very thin now.

I'll put the needle in the carb down a notch and see what happens...perhaps it is to rich...deff not oil, because I put a 32:1 ratio in there just to see if it will start without worrying about to much oil blowing the flame out.
 
So for yo uguys I assume your rotor magnets are solid on the crank without the nut on? Can you cannot turn your rotor back and forth?

This is with the nut off of course...still it shouldn't turn IMO. I can turn it either way a little over half an inch.
 
Tom is absolutely right Eric,

And I will add something else based on some things you mentioned

(1) if when releasing the clutch the engine has enough compression to almost pitch you over the bars, then I would say the compression is fine.

(2) Based on the video you listed, I can tell you that the amount of rotation you are getting with the flywheel/mag. Rotor is to much I've had the flywheel off 2 of my engines and neither of them were like that, best I remember they had very little to zero movement when seated on the crank, that is a problem with either the key or one of the keyways, Now if the nut is tightened down very good while the flywheel is in the proper position it should be fine as long as it fits tight on the crank but yours doesn't, so IMO that is a definite problem that needs to be addressed.

(3) ?.... After a good pull behind the mower have you imediately pulled the plug to see if it has any signs that the engine is actually getting fuel?

You said you have a strong BLUE spark so if that is the case and the timing isn't a mile off that engine should be busting off and trying to run.

In my honest opinion here, you have a very simple problem with this engine that you are missing, and like I brought up origninally in this series of posts.... CORRECT TIMING is essential IF all else is correct.....

IF you do have fuel, compression, spark then timing is still likely your problem and like I said you for curtain have an issue with the play in the flywheel.....that isn't normal on ANY engine....period, that rotor is the link that controls the spark timing in relation to the position of the piston to a great degree, if that engine is firing way too soon or way too late it will not run, and the occational pop you are hearing is just built up fuel vapor being set off by the spark plug at the wrong time.

Fix that lose flywheel issue and make sure you are actually getting the proper amount of fuel through the carb.

I made a new woodruf key for one of my engines by cutting a piece from a flat steel washer with my dremel tool that already has that radius on the edge, tyhat was 400 miles ago on that engine and it's still going strong.


Dont quit on a perfectly good engine most likely, this is a set up & adjustment problem and that engine will run IMHO.

Peace


Eric,
If you're able to rotate the rotor (magnet) on the crankshaft, there's a problem. The woodruff key and the key ways should keep that rotor stationary. You should not be able to move it back and forth. Are you certain the key is in there? If so, check the keyway in the shaft and the rotor. One or the other might be cut too wide. Advancing and retarding the ignition too far could be your problem.
Tom
 
Yepp, with the nut off the rotor magnet I can literally move the rotor magnet back and forth around half an inch each way while the crank remains still. A really sloppy fit of the key and keyways no doubt.

I find it so hard to believe the guy putting it together in China could not see the problem, but then again he could give s crap probably...cheap labor rates and all.
No wonder things seem cheaper built these days since America has almost everything made in China.

I didn't expect a Honda for that cheap, but damn...this is ridiculous. May as well buy these engines with intensions to take it all apart and build it right.

Yes..I get gas..it drips from the exhaust pipe. deff getting gas..plug wet too.
 
Eric,
There are ways to repair this situation but,
my advice at this point is to contact your seller and ask for a replacement engine. I hope it came from a reputable vendor, one who will stand behind his product. Let us know what you do.
Tom
 
Eric,
There are ways to repair this situation but,
my advice at this point is to contact your seller and ask for a replacement engine. I hope it came from a reputable vendor, one who will stand behind his product. Let us know what you do.
Tom

Came from 1-888 kit bikes. This was almost a year ago when we got the engine
so I doubt they will give me a new one. I will ask nicely to what they can do though.

I did notice that the key is thin on one end and thicker on the other.. Seems soft and light too. Very cheap looking and not cut very well.

Perhaps they will send me a new key and rotor..

Thanks, guys..for all the help.

I'l take a break, but I will go back to it soon.
 
I'm going to send the link to my video of me moving the rotor to 1 888 kit bikes. Hopefully they will see the problem and work work with me.
 
I just got my new woodruff key http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac314/Dirtcar28/b497ce87.jpg

I need to shave it down a bit, but I'll make it nice and firm and see what happens.

Truly I have no idea why they would want that magnet rotor to have so much play....oh I know...cause it is a cheap POS lol.

Slowly I will fix the poor little motor up. It's not the engine's fault...it is the people who put it together, faults. They just don't give a shiat in China I guess.
 
After ten pages here, you *have* to get it running. :)

I'll never show my face around here again if I don't lol


Hopefully it will help others in weeding down the problems with em.

I'll keep the videos up for others and if I can get the new key in and it runs..I'll make a better quality video on how I did it.

Back to the garage *stomps all the way out*
 
On the Cranbrook...yesterday I noticed the pedal coming loose from the crank...only a couple of threads before it came out and I drilled my foot into the road.

Oh....it's made in China.
 
Nah, the rotor should not rotate on the shaft.

I was kinda bummed that my motor was made 2 years ago. March 2009. Rust in tank that I had to deal with, but it started right up.

That's the same guy (Kalamazoo MI) that I got my Starfire GT4 from.

Luck of the draw I guess...
 
Nah, the rotor should not rotate on the shaft.

I was kinda bummed that my motor was made 2 years ago. March 2009. Rust in tank that I had to deal with, but it started right up.

That's the same guy (Kalamazoo MI) that I got my Starfire GT4 from.

Luck of the draw I guess...


I'm going to get it running no matter what lol The little !@$#%!
 
Eric,
Several of us have decided that we will not shave until you get that thing running. Our wives are depending on you. Keep us informed.
Tom
 
ship me the motor and i will trade you for a grubee gt5 that i know runs and has less than 10 miles on it. it comes with the throttle and cdi because its all soldered together basically bolt on the bike ziptie the cdi to frame hook up throttle done. I'm willing to do this because i know i can get yours running. just pay the shipping and done.
 
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ship me the motor and i will trade you for a grubee gt5 that i know runs and has less than 10 miles on it. it comes with the throttle and cdi because its all soldered together basically bolt on the bike ziptie the cdi to frame hook up throttle done. I'm willing to do this because i know i can get yours running. just pay the shipping and done.

I've been in the shop fashioning a key for the mag rotor and I hope it comes out nice and the rotor is tight on the crank.

I'll think about your offer if it doesn't start after that.
 
Wow, man, are you kidding me?

Hours making a nice, new woodruff key, finally got the rotor back on and it's super tight no play. Went out, pedaled for half a freakin hour.....nothing.

Came back, got a new spark plug, leaned out the carb by moving the c-clip up on the needle....went back out.....nothing, zilch....dead as well as my legs being dead from pedaling.

Thanks guys, but I'm done.
 
Oh and to add to the misery, the pedal broke off the Cranbrook and I almost fell off. The threads where the pedal thread to the crank....totally stripped and smooth....

Oh and on the frame it says made in China.....I'm getting damn tired of this Chinese crap....

Where the **** is American pride?...I would be glad to pay ful lprice if the damn thing would actually work.

Thanks again for trying....this just isn't for me.
 
Just my 2 cents.

Drill a hole and use an easyout on the broken pedal stub or, Slot the broken stub with a dremel and use a screwdriver.

Why not just take up someone on their offer of an exchange.

Did you ever check to make sure you are getting fuel into the engine?
Leaky flange from carb to manifold.
Remove the sparkplug place a teaspoom of fuel oil mix in the hole. replace the plug a see if it fires.

You would not like the American price for a bicycle or the engine.
 
Yep Yep Yep.......and another yep!

you are so right on these points.

It has to be a simple fix I wuld think and yes these engines are very easy to start.

Maybe you are missing something that is obvious?
It happens to all of us, we fight and fight with something, and then, just as we are about to give up, we realize what the problem is, and smack our foreheads in disbelief.
These things really are very easy to start:
YouTube - Motorized Bicycle Easy Start
 
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