The Epic an electric tri car.

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fasteddy

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Hi Tom,
I figured he would. He's very good about keeping the forum in good shape.

My attitude is aimed at the server people. This surely isn't the first time they moved some one. I have family members who work as tech support for a company who runs servers world wide and they constantly talk about how they make certain that everything is checked before they allow a company using them to go on line. Point of pride for them.

Those hanging baskets are fantastic. Constant enjoyment for the whole summer.

Steve.
 

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I bolted the cylinder mounting plates to the crankcase and pushed the cylinders into them temporarily and set both the heads from the Jacobsen motor that is in the Indian tri car and the China Girl 66cc slant heads to see what the difference would be.

The China Girl 66cc heads clear better but the Jacobsen heads look nicer. I think I'll have to remove a 1/2" off the cylinders for the rear head to clear. Then I have to see just where the motor will sit in the frame to make sure the spark plug clears the frame with the Jacobsen heads.

The mid motor I'm using for the build is designed to drive a chain ring that sits beside the pedal chain ring and drives the rear wheel. I have a Manic Mechanic rear wheel sprocket mount that I removed to install a Sportsman Flyer 3 piece sprocket mount and the purpose of the build was to use up all the spare parts I have sitting around but I think I'll go with Pat's set up again if I set it up that way. I'll add the other sprocket and adapter to my sons care package of things I'll never use.

I should have the parts for a jack shaft on the shelf. Try and check tomorrow. Probably in one of the mystery boxes I haven't looked in in years. Lots of 5/8" and 3/4" keyed bar stock and bearings.

Steve.
 

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indian22

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Steve it's looking berry good, delicious! What angle? As you build keep in mind it doesn't require oil. compression spark or routine spark plug removal, but that said being able to unbolt head, jugs and side plates is very desirable. High exhaust ports on the L head make it easier to plumb than the low port design F head. Attaching the intake tubes is entertaining work.

You've made a really good start. I expected to have fins in hand Saturday and I'll check tomorrow for progress as the shop owner will be cutting this batch out due to social /commercial distancing and all.

Rick C.
 

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Hi Rick,
The angle of the cylinders is 40 degrees. The heads and the side plates will be removable. The heads just in case I have to and the side plates so I can get to the motor.

I started on the side plates today but gout or as I prefer to call it "The Hot Foot." drove me back into the easy chair. It's let up so tomorrow looks like a good day to finish it. Then it's time to look into devising a jack shaft that can be hidden as something else.

Steve.
 
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indian22

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Hi Rick,
The angle of the cylinders is 40 degrees. The heads and the side plates will be removable. The heads just in case I have to and the side plates so I can get to the motor.

I started on the side plates today but gout or as I prefer to call it "The hot Foot." drove me back into the easy chair. It's let up so tomorrow looks like a good day to finish it. Then it's time to look into devising a jack shaft that can be hidden as something else.

Steve.
Hi Steve sorry 'bout the gout, but glad the weather is giving you a break.

I'll check on the fins today, really thought I'd have them by now. I'm hoping that the city fathers aren't selectively enforcing the no work ordinances that are in place for many. His shop is half a block from city hall and police department.

The exact angle isn't critical but going much over or under 40 can cause problems in what we would think of as typical bicycle frames.

I first thought I'd go with a bottom bracket location for the jack shaft transmission which is really quite sensible and the most authentic look. I also considered hiding the jack shat in a magneto look housing before locating the jack shaft in the motor case housing, which was a bit more work and created some issues that l had fun with, but I'd say the bottom bracket location will be my choice for the next e-V-twin or single. A battery ignition box or oil tank could also conceal or the most obvious would be a simple transmission housing 2 or 3 speed look for a simple reduction gear jack shaft transmission.

Re-locating the bottom bracket aft of the seat tube is seen on some old V-twins & that yields space for the larger cases. The Harley bikes, and others, really jammed the rear wheel forward and left only an inch or so between tire and seat tube, perhaps looking for rigidity, but I'd think ride/handling issues would have resulted that the rest of the bike's design had to compensate for.

Designers reasons give old minds something to wonder about instead of just wandering about.

Rick C.
 
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fasteddy

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Hi Rick,
There is a flat space behind the seat tube where the chain stay joins the bottom bracket. I plan to try and form something that looks like a magneto with the magneto drive cover hiding the primary drive chain and have it rest on this space.

Tucked up against the seat tube it should blend together.

Steve.

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I like covering of the primary drive chain Steve. On pedal electric bikes chains are about the only things left on a mid drive which can soil both pant legs. On hub drives only the pedal chain is a factor. You are pedal less with the e- tri-car right? Once you cover the primary you can wear your tropical white trousers with no concerns!

Rick C.
 

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Have to have pedals to be legal, Rick. If it wasn't for that there would be running boards. There were two antique motorcycles on Facebook that had magneto's in front of the bike frame. Just like I planned to do but mine will be in the reverse being behind the seat stay.

Steve.
 

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When you ride everyday year round doing the white glove inspection is the last thing on ones mind or should be, and still I haven't broken or thrown a motor drive chain in this century, so adequate maintenance has been done for certain.

Rick C.
 

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Have any of you guys seen the umpteen videos posted on YouTube documenting the Distinguished Gentleman's Ride which raises funds for charity in various major towns and cities worldwide? Most everyone takes the trouble to dress the part. Plenty period clothing inspiration there. If you can find 'em, jodhpurs and riding boots get top marks for sartorial elegance. Not quite the get up to be seen in at your local biker bar though...