We should have a bike build-off on this forum, and then have members cast their votes to see which bike wins. The competitors each have to start from an agreed total budget for the build-off.... (I'm thinking under $200 total?), I would like the total amount to be low to see what kind of creations people can come up with on a tight budget. And also have a deadline to complete the build? For our 1st bike build-off, I propose these 2 guys........ "Venice Motor Bikes" > VS < "KCvale" Are you ready, Venice? Are you ready, KCvale? Let the battle BEGIN!