Wow! Two bike shops, and one guy with "400 bikes" and do you think I could bring a few home? The one bike shop practically threw me out the door when I mentioned bicycle motors. The other one changed it's tune and told me "we don't have what you're lookin' for here". (shades of the 50's in the south) and the 400 bikes guy, gave me such a run around about what he had and if/when/where I could look at them, I gave up! He did at least ask me if they "were like a Whizzer" at least. Back to yard sales and flea markets for my bike supply I guess. Anybody else have a problem when mentioning your hobby to "bicycle enthusiasts"?