Hi from the UK - INDIAN Board Tracker tribute, my first build

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curtisfox

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WOW! Pete!
Kool bike, broke a few records back then, neat rear suspension. Also like the race version, attractive lines to it, 3 speed transmission also. Later years the changed the rear to accept friction shocks, what a great find. Had a friend that had a newer V twin Moto Guzzi, nice smooth running quiet bike, he had it for long time...........Curt
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PeteMcP

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Hey Rick,
Want more Guzzino scuttlebutt? Check-out Curt's posting which has a great link. Cool link Curt - thanks. I've seen the 'shrouded' Guzzino racer pics online. That thing looks right out of Flash Gordon. This little scoot is amongst the machines that got Italians back on the road in the post war years. Guzzinos were also made under licence in Spain. Mine has the pillion seat - but I reckon they look better as solo machines.
I'm betting Ludwig will have some interesting info on Guzzinos...
 

PeteMcP

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Been talking with new UK member Greg M in the forum's conversation section and he showed me a recent project he's been developing - a really cool quadricycle. I wasn't slow to suggest he reveals his handiwork in this thread 'cause I know there are a bunch of you guys who would be interested. Watch out for Greg's posting.....you'll be as impressed as I was.
 

Greg M

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Thanks for that Pete. As I mentioned to you, I don't really have an aim with this post - just that the quadricycle is something that I was completely obsessed with before other things took over (earning a living mostly..) - and I want to try and get it going again..

So... a few years ago, I had a ride in a pedi-cab in the centre of London, and I loved it. The perfect pace for a city - much better than a car, or walking. Few days later, I was stuck in traffic (London) and some kind of home made recumbent quadricycle pulled out in front of me, skipped past the traffic and took a short cut through a park. It had a flatbed on the back and was carrying a beer keg! It was bonkers, but it was totally unique and everyone stopped to look and smile. I then did a bit of research and found that a lot of courier companies are looking to make 'last mile' transport, pedal powered. So... I decided to design something a bit more traditional and with 4 wheels and to then launch my Classic Quadricycle company producing pickups and people carriers... then get rich, takeover the world etc...
I mocked up the first prototype and got support from Cycles Maximus (pedi-cab company) who have designed pedal and electric underpinnings for it. I also got some interest from a couple of car show organisers regarding using the quads to sell coffees/ice creams from etc. (Carfest and a kitcar show). Then, as time and money got tighter, I had to move on and so, quad#1 languishes in my workshop. It still makes me smile whenever I see it (and sit in it!), and I don't want to give up on it, but I can't just blindly plough on with it in the hope that it may succeed.

So, if anyone has any opinions, please say. I am aware that this could be an 'Emperor's New Clothes' situation, and I'm in my own little happy bubble with it. But any ideas 're uses (pedi-cab, pickup, box van..), power (pedals, electric, petrol..), and how to move forward would be really appreciated. Otherwise I'll just go back to sitting in it and making brrm, brrm noises....

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Such an elegant & fun design. Commercial use? I'd say for certain an electric version would generate interest.

I owned a company that had a prototype service so I've seen a good many varied projects all hoping for commercial success, some were well funded already others were searching desperately for" second round" funding while the commonality was a terrific working prototype, 95% fleshed out, but looking 100% before going for the big investor buy in.

Investors are looking at three things upfront: you, your concept and a working prototype...all three must be perfectly solid or no financing will be forthcoming and even then a huge piece of the company is no longer yours and decisions are mostly controlled by the investor. Venture money is risky so those who offer it are looking for huge returns on their money as most of the ideas backed don't pay off.

Fortunately you're way ahead of most in the concept and design stage .Your quad has a killer vintage look and the tiny footprint brings smiles. It's a real attention grabber & one can only imagine what a joy it would be to dream up marketing for the C-cab styling and urban utility your design represents they can easily "sell the sizzle and not the steak" and that's the job of marketing. Making sure the finished product is safe and reliable is engineering and productions concern. Legal is a whole different topic that the solicitors must deal with.

Oh yes unsolicited, free advice is worth what you pay for it, lol.....

Thanks for sharing with us. I enjoy your posts & wish you great success in all you do.

Rick C.
 

curtisfox

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That's so KOOL, love he style, old model T looking, Mac truck type hood. My first thought is pedals like a pedal car, back and forth, with electric power assist. Here in MN would have to be built like a car, with car license, as 4 wheel bikes are not aloud 3 wheeler's yes. Get er done, would love to have one here. it would have to be a antique or street rod, to license here..............Curt
 

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I love it, but as Curt said, the 4 wheels makes it a car/pickup. With power, the Texas DMV would want license plate, insurance, driver's license and an annual inspection.

I also would like to see a version with an enclosed bed, like the horse drawn delivery wagons.
 

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Welcome to the forum. What everyone else said plus my own hearty, Well Done.
I'd finish it just to have it finished and if you had a pedicab company interested in the project as well as some other venues to me that would suggest interest and the fact that your on the right path.

Steve.
 

indian22

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Here in Indian Territory your quad could be operated with local permit for city streets @ $20. per year as a golf cart, electric and or gas hybrid, with state drivers license. The 3 wheelers require none of that if pedal operated only, but with pedal assist & electric operator must be18 or older. Operation on state roads would not be permitted however.

Some of the world, perhaps more than we might imagine, is still open to your concept & yes a closed box van would be a nice option.

Rick C.
 

PeteMcP

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Mmmm...Sorely tempted by this rarity on UK eBay right now...That little Ducati motor is a thing of beauty. Same UK seller has another Autocycle for resto listed. Cool finds.
Hoping a post like this maybe lures Ludwig out of hiding. Discussing obscure Euro-stuff like this was always his kind of thing.

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Can confirm my Moto Guzzi Guzzino was safely delivered Tuesday. Rare for something to be so much nicer and better than I thought it looked in the pics I saw. Absolute bargain considering what I paid. The Guzzino won't take much to get sorted. I'll post a pic or two when I remember where I stashed my camera.
 
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indian22

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I also like the loop, little bike has some style ( with front brake) & you're right Pete the engines a real gem! The construction with active rear suspension checks a lot of boxes on my list of desirable moped features. It would be grand if on completion the bike could be pedaled easily by an ordinary human being...this quality was most often overlooked/ignored when creating mopeds....

You've quite a find in this Ducati powered Autocycle Pete.

Rick C.