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  1. silverbear

    silverbear The Boy Who Never Grew Up

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    Richard,
    You are kind, sir, and it is me thanking you not only for your good words but also for your good deed.
    Corgi1,
    Wrong truck. No wonder you got mixed up, I did too. It was the Chevy with the worn shifting linkage inside the column. A different can of worms. The trouble I ran into on a1980's Ford F 150 column was the key locking mechanism on the column locks one last time and then there is no unlocking it... something had to be drilled out by a mechanic to function again which also drilled a large hole in my pocket where the money fell out. I understand it was a fairly common occurrence as they got old and tired. I'm getting old and tired, too, fully expecting to lock up at some point myself, so I guess the Fords have a right.
    Rockhopper,
    You tryin' ta git rid'a me?
    Today an important decision is coming, so I'm back to arm wrestling myself with buoyant optimism in one hand and high alert caution in the other...FTW as Barely says in young person cryptic talk. That's 'for the win' in old fart speak. Later.
    SB
     
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    corgi1 New Member

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    check the mail
     
  3. Venice Motor Bikes

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    The Chev will obviously need a good amount of work, but I know those truck pretty well... In general, they're happy & reliable when they have someone that loves them.
    You kinda just have to hang out with it for a bit & try to feel it's Kharma... feel if it's good or bad.

    The newer Jeeps I don't care much for... old Jeeps yes, new Jeeps, no.

    The Ford could also be a good choice? again, just try to get a feel for it.
    Take your time & good luck!
     
  4. silverbear

    silverbear The Boy Who Never Grew Up

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    Corgi,
    PM you mean, email or land mail? I can check land mail here tomorrow. Will lewt you know...
    Norm,
    I'm generally in agreement with your assessment and that said I let the Chevy go since I don't want to spend a lot of time trying to get it far enough along to head home. I know the windshield is shot on it, the shifting linkage would have worked well enough to get home, needed tires, needed brakes gone over, needed to be hauled here since the brakes do not work at all with one leaking caliper and the trailing arms need to be replaced. Once going the gas tank might have had rust problems. That's a lot to deal with just to get going, especially for a maiden voyage of 1300 milles. I liked it, though. The Ford already had somebody who was coming to buy it and it was over budget with one thousand for the truck and four hundred more for ball joint replacement. I went to see the Jeep today and am buying it. I don't have to do anything to drive it to Minnesota other than registration and tags which I will do through Minnesota (no state inspection) by mail. As soon as tags and a temporary registration come I can go home. The Jeep answers my long term needs least well as I ultimately need a pickup truck, but it was on budget at one thousand dollars. I know that parts are expensive as I've had jeeps through the years. As Barely pointed out a starter for the Chevy is less than a third the cost of a jeep starter. It is an automatic and I like manual transmissions. One plus is that it has been gone over lovingly by the veteran who is selling it and it has been in use as a family car. I had to wait a bit for the owner to arrive as I got to his home first. His wife got out and greeted me. I looked in the back seat and a baby was in the car seat asleep. I said I wasn't interested as I already had kids and have changed enough diapers already. They would have to keep the baby. She laughed and I saw from stickers on another vehicle along with telling wound scars that the young man was a veteran of Iraq. So, it has not been sitting accumulating problems associated with rust. Both the Ford and the Chevy have been sitting, the Ford in a garage and the Chevy outside, but both sitting idle for some time. The couple have used the Jeep regularly and drove it to South Carolina twice this year for ocean fishing, so I have reason to believe it will get Moosh and me to Minnestoa. I won't need to drive it much this summer and may well decide to trade it off for a 2 wheel drive pickup. A good running 4X4 is valued a lot more in snow country than it is around here, so it's trade value there is greater than it would be here. Just some of the thoughts which led to the decision to go ahead with the Jeep. I don't like four wheel drive in an older vehicle since it is expensive to repair, often more than the vehicle is worth, so it may well end up getting passed along. I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Mid week the owner will drive it here and I will pay the balance. It was nice of him to offer to deliver it since both he and his wife will need to drive thirty miles each way to do so. In their kitchen we did some talking and sharing and left feeling like friends. It didn't feel like just a business transaction and yes, my initial email to the owner hooked him. It was so different he wanted to know who this old guy was and understood I was in a bind. As can be expected he has had a lot of responses to his listing as a highway ready jeep for a thousand is bound to generate interest. He held it for me to look at first. I learned that he has been in both of the Iraq wars and works now for Wounded Warriors out of Walter Reed Hospital helping his comrades. I noticed missing fingers, a limp, wheelchair ramp from garage into the house so he has no doubt come a long way. He did mention that he has two more surgeries coming up for his shoulders. As I left I thanked him for his service and said I was glad he made it home. And I am. Now what is a little fire compared to that? And what does he see in his dreams at night? I have no room to feel sorry for myself about anything.
    Of course I am hoping I've made a wise decision. I will have if I make it all the way home and I'll be in deep trouble if it makes it half way. I think Moosh and I are going to be just fine and should be home in a week and a half or so, just as soon as the tags arrive. Tomorrow morning I will have the liability insurance switched over to the Jeep from my dead truck in time to avoid the policy being canceled and paying start up fees for a new policy. So, stage one is underway... I have my vehicle and will pay the balance when it is delvered. Then insurance. Then registration and tags. Then make sure I can pay for gasoline to get there. I saw it was $2.99 a gallon here this morning. At about 18 miles per gallon and 1300 miles that's around ... I can't do it in my head anymore. I'm guessing around four hundred for gas, oil, tolls and a tootsie roll for Moosh. There wasn't one in the glove box. Seats smelled OK and she can see out, so I got the grin of approval from her. Tired. Thanks for all of the advice from everybody. It really was a great help in weighing things and coming to a decision. I suspect from now on when I see an old Chevy pickup in a field or in a car show I'll think about that turquoise reservation cruiser a little wistfully. Would've been sharp with a Schwinn Panther in back with Pat's "Motorbike" tank for the rubberneckers to look at.
    SB
     
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    land mail,post office letters
     
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    SB..good luck with the Cherokee..The older ones will treat you right and run forever..I have a 95 and a 96 now..Just got rid of another 95 that had 250,000 on it and the motor was still running strong because I got a good deal on the other 95 with 100,000 on it that was bought new and kept in the garage..got that one for my wife ..looks like it just came out of the showroom..Take the back seat out and you got a pick up with a topper that you can acess from the back, sides, or drivers seat. Have had full size Ford and Chevy pickups but now retired and will own nothing but these older Jeep Cherokees ..not the newer ones or the Grand Cherokee but anything from 1984 to 1996. My motorbike ( Schwin Delmar fits in the back easy.
     
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    Watching with great interest. Good luck, silverbear!
     
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    I just wanna let SB and everyone here know what an inspiration this story has been for me. I have a heartfelt opinion of all those involved in this tale. SB I'm so glad you went with the Jeep, is that the 4.0L.? If so I never had any problems with that rig and it got the hello beat out of it, Freeway MPG are actually good, but in town its a guzzle gut. It is so great that we see this tragic incident being resolved. The humanity shown in the forum is far beyond any expectations I could have had.
    SB as you shake off the numb feeling of loss remember that the guiding forces in our lives whether Mother Earth, Odin, Christ, the elements, whatever it is that one may pray to. Those forces have shined upon you from within these kind people of the forum, not because it expects you to repay this but because you deserve it. I am glad you were not to proud to let us help and even happier you and Moosh will soon be home with a new steel sled! I this time will choose to pray to the wind to protect your journey from further incidence, I will pray to the sun to shine upon yours and Moosh's noses, and to the Gods of Rock and Roll that you have a good time getting there! Bumpity Bump





    O yeah, abolish federal government!
     
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  9. silverbear

    silverbear The Boy Who Never Grew Up

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    It is heartening to hear from you guys that the Cherokee may have been a better choice than I imagined. I will suspend judgment until later after the truck and I get to know each other better. I do know that the owner replaced the transfer case when he bought it, changed the valve cover to a better one from another model, replaced or upgraded (can’t remember which) the air conditioning unit and put a bigger reservoir in place for the radiator. It has the heavier duty rear axle favored by off roaders. Yes, the engine is 4.0 litres. Good to hear that the mileage will be better for highway travel. And yes, I can see that removing the back seat opens things up considerably for having room for a sleeping bag as a temporary ‘camper’ and room for hauling this and that. One of those rear bike carriers that fit into the trailer hitch receiver would be great for carrying a motorbike. Maybe this will be more versatile than I had imagined it would be. I’m adaptable. I know that I will be vigilant about checking fluids and babying it. I find it curious that new truck owners are all the time checking this and that, keeping tabs on everything and an older vehicle which actually needs to be pampered gets neglected. “Driver ‘er til she drops”, I guess. I have an old Suzuki Samurai parked back in Minnesota which I drove most of last summer until a brake line or something in the brake itself sprung a leak. And the muffler rusted off. It was a good and economical runner, absolutely terrific for the logging roads and such, but underpowered and nothing to drive long distance. I may try to get it serviceable again on a shoestring, fixing the brakes myself and seeing if I can cobble something with the exhaust using flex pipe and the remains of the muffler which fell off. That way I could park the Cherokee for the summer and save it for the fall migration to Maryland where I also don’t drive much since I work where I live. With care and saving it for the highway journeys maybe I can keep it alive for a long time. Anyway, thanks for the input.
    Terron, that was a thoughtful post and I thank you for it. I liked the direction of your prayers. When the Europeans first came to Turtle Island they got the idea that Indians prayed to rocks and animals and had all kinds of gods, a bunch of know nothing heathens who needed to be saved. We all know better now that they were better stewards of the land than the invaders and had their own culture and spirituality . What many people fail to understand is that while they may have felt a deep sense of kinship to all other beings and the forces of nature, they believed in one creator, just like the Europeans did. They may have called the creator by a different name, The Great Spirit (Gitchee Manidoo in Ojibwe), but the destination of their prayers was the same. In my experience those prayers are almost never asking for something. Rather, they are expressions of gratitude, respect, and recognition. If something is asked for it is more likely to be of a spiritual nature than a material one. The Creator is not thought of as male or female, but is referred to as The Great Mystery with no one pretending to know that the Creator wants us to eat this but not that, to donate so much of our money, to do this, but not that. So there really is no dogma. There are also no go-betweens like some religions have church fathers or priests who are somehow in close communication with the Creator and can communicate directly where the average person can not and special buildings are reserved for worship. Although some people are recognized as being on a more intense spiritual journey and for whom that is their center of gravity and so they are chosen as pipe carriers and are asked and thus required to help others in ceremonial prayer. They may be counselors, are often elders, but they aren’t preachers. In the Native American tradition each person is encouraged to have their own relationship with creation and with the Creator. A young person coming of age goes on a vision quest, fasting and doing without water or comforts for a specified period of time and when the vision comes giving direction to the young person often it is a turning point for them pointing the way of their life journey. ( I think this is done less often in modern times, but it is a good practice in any culture and at any age to ‘cry for a vison’ giving direction in life’s journey). Everyone is interested in what the young person experienced on the vision quest as they also went on their own at one time or another perhaps more than once. Sometimes their name changes due to the vision. I have a Lakota friend whose name became Spotted Eagle Horse due to the vision of a spirit horse changing form into a spotted eagle taking flight. Names are more fluid in the Indian world, reflecting what has happened to a person or a personal quality, that sort of thing… maybe a physical characteristic and can change during their life time. I have gone by more than one name in my life and it is sometimes hard to answer when someone wants to know your name. Most of the time I use an anglo government recognized name, but here I feel more able to use my “real” name. I find all of the internet names people use of interest because often they tell more about the person than their ‘given’ names. Now you know more than you ever wanted to about that stuff and my coffee is long gone. Forgive an old man’s reflections. Maybe the internet connection has returned. Rainy day and I can see a serious nap in my future. Thanks again…
    SB. .
     
  10. curtisfox

    curtisfox Well-Known Member

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    I agree we my dad and I had a 71 chev step van (delivery van )He bought it and made a small camper out of it. Drove it to california a couple of times. 16 mpls to the gal. It had three on the tree. Then when it was he was done I got it and drove it every were untill it got to rusty. I even cut the back off and made a flat bed to make it last but rust got the best. But still run good.
     
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    SB sorry to here about this got to be devistating. God is our creater and father in haven. That makes us all brothers and sisters. The bible say treat our neighbor as thy self. The gift of giveing will be reworded.Not only money but your out put in these forums. You have waken up this old fart to make do with what you got insted of buying it all. I used to make everything buy hand,brase and bit for drill hack saw and file, cutting torch for a welder. Much apreceated. I bought a old swhinn at garage sale last yeay the sticker says 1931 I am not sure about the year but its Green and has the Creem colored acsents and pin stripes. It must have been in a barn because chincken dropins has made spots in the paint. The headlite is there and is all compleate. It is a pas through and yours if you want. just swing over and fallow the river and I am strieght up from Minneapolis........GOD Bless and guide you...Curt
     
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    I dare not offend anyone and hope I do not. I am a scholar of many religions and my own faith, and I believe the one big problem with European faith is a misinterpretation, they believed that the instruction is "our god is the one and only" they destroyed any non believers and are responsible for some of the most historic wrongs done to other men. The lesson they have failed to understand, that it doesn't matter what you call him/it/her every religion is praying to the same god/being/force regardless. As for the rules each group has to each their own but it is not any mans right to impose their will or beliefs upon another race /religion /creed! I for one am considered a Shaman among my peers and family and I am and will continue to focus much positive energy your way!
     
  13. silverbear

    silverbear The Boy Who Never Grew Up

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    Teron,
    I doubt if anyone is offended and if they are then no doubt I also have offended. I think most people would recognize that was not the intent of either of us, that we were simply sharing our perspectives and not trying to change anybody's mind about anything. I do know that religion is a touchy subject and we come to our beliefs through introspection and life experience, so each person's connection to what they understand to be a higher power is dear to them. And those who are not inclined in that direction have their rights, too, as thinking and feeling people. I pay little attention to labels and am more interested in quality, like a good heart. There's lot of that here, so we are in good company. As Curtis said, we are all brothers and sisters.

    Curtis, my friend, you are very kind and the old Schwinn sounds intriguing. I'd love to see it and just like old stuff, especially two wheeled time machines. My migration route home is not yet set and I have to also figure out what room I have available with the Cherokee. I'm going to be on the eagle eye lookout for a rear bike carrier that fits into the trailer hitch receiver. Not only would it be a great way to transport a motorbike or two, but it would also be a super way to display a bike in the future. I know if I was in traffic and a cool old bike like Barely's was staring at me from the back end of a truck I'd want to get right behind to take a closer look. So, I think one of those is going to be in my future if I can find a used one. I suppose they're expensive. The kind they have with like a tray at the bottom for motorbikes or scooters would be the cat's meow.

    The balance on the truck will be paid this evening or tomorrow, as soon as the seller can come to deliver it. Once I have the title I then send a fax of it to my local license bureau in Ely, Minnesota and they fax back to me a title application form and a quotation of what I owe them. Then I send them by mail the actual title, the application and money. As soon as they receive that they send me a temporary title and tags. I get the tags and I'm ready to roll. Pretty soon I can go home. If it doesn't look like I have enough for gas then I'll wait until early June when my social security check is deposited. Either way I'll be home pretty soon. I'd be sitting here stuck all summer if it weren't for you and Terron and all of the other great people here. Most of the cost of this truck is your doing. This really is the forum's truck and I'm lucky enough to be able to use it. I never expected any of this. It still just floors me and when I get quiet inside and contemplate what you have done that lump in my throat comes back again.
    I'm thinking the ride home may wander a little bit and take a little longer. I was thinking that when I have settled on a route it would be cool to meet some of you along the way if you are more or less close to where I'm going. I could take a break, maybe share a cup of coffee and talk bikes a little and then be on my way. That might be fun. It would be cool to meet some of you guys in person. In general, I'll be passing through western Maryland, all of Ohio east to west, all of Indiana east to west then Wisconsin on a diagonal northwest and either cut over into Minnesota around the Twin Cities (because of you Curtis) or on up to Superior Wisconsin and then to Duluth and from there home either up the north shore of Lake Superior and then west or a straight shot from Duluth to Bear Head State Park next to home at Eagles Nest Lake #3. If anyone is coming to the boundary waters this summer, please look me up.
    SB
     
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    i don't know how buying a car in maryland works, but any time i've ever bought a car out of my home state, the seller and i just went to a notary, had the title notarized into my name, then go to there local DMV and get a temp tag to get you home, then in your home town you get the new title and tags.
     
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    I wish Oregon was on your route lol, well if I could just get this teleporter working *Klink* Zap!!* Oww.......OK nevermind.
     
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    silverbear The Boy Who Never Grew Up

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    Camlifter,
    Thanks for the tip! I'm going to follow up on it and see if I can do that in Maryland... awesome as I could leave then pretty danged soon. Woohoo, Minnesota here I come!

    Yeah, Terron, Oregon would be kind a a big dogleg out of the way.
    SB
     
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    HI, I'm LadyG.. buzzard's wife. He isn't able to type a response right now. He's had a few minor health setbacks and I'm acting secretary. He missed his 73rd Bday on 5/2 and our 31st Annversary on 5/11 from his BP problems that required some minor adjustments in the hospital. SOooo.. I'm writing in his stead, hope that is OK with you wonderful guys. His health problems are nothing compared to your fire, SB. He's recovering slowly but surely and had to come lurk here. He should be going back to work 6/1. I married him for life but not for lunch. Him coming here and reading gets him out of my kitchen and hair.. so I thank you all for that!
    SB, I will be sending something to your paypal acct for you from him.
    If you happen to need a place to stay in SE Nebraska (Lincoln) please email and we will set up the air bed! I'm pretty sure that is out of your way, but I thought you 2 Minnesotan's should meet if possible. Our pug Spanky would certainly enjoy Moosh's company, too.
    He's very glad you are with vehicle and soon on your way home.
    Our invitation is open always or whenever. We don't have much but we're more than happy to share.
    SO sorry to read of your misfortune and we are sending our prayers up your way. I wish he had seen it sooner.
    Best Regards,
    LadyG... for buzzard
     
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    Hi Lady G. Please send our best wishs to The good Sir and hopes for a speedy recovery
     
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    LadyG, please tell Buzzard that Fasteddy sends his best and thank you for telling us.
    I was wondering what had happend to him. He had dropped out of sight a while ago.

    Hope he is back to feeling good soon.

    Steve.
     
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    silverbear The Boy Who Never Grew Up

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    LadyG,
    Boy, it sure got quiet here at the forum all of a sudden... guys are looking guilty and sayin' shhhh there's a girl. Smoothing' their hair and such. We don't get many girls here, you see. "Where even angels fear to tread" and such. Relax you guys, it's Buzzard's wife, LadyG. Anyway, welcome to the forum, like we say to all the new people and really mean it if it's a girl. We're all very pleased to meet you and I am especially glad, but also sorry to hear Buzzard's feeling poorly. Please tell him everyone hopes he's out fooling around with wrenches again and hanging out at the forum telling lies. He didn't get to go to Minnesota's fishing opener either so it looks like it's Mrs. Paul's fish sticks for both of us.
    I'm joking around to cover up the lump in my throat knowing that Buzzard cares what happened to me enough to ask his wife to come say so. He's a good man, but I guess you already knew that. I thank you both for your kindness. These guys here... some of them have grease under their fingernails and some of them have tattoos and like to look tough, but under it all we're every one of us twelve years old on the inside and just wanna look at each other's bicycles. It's a good place and you're always welcome here, even if you are a girl. Actually, especially because you're a girl.
    I have a brother in Council Bluffs and my big sister lives in Omaha along with a number of nieces and nephews and their little people. I even lived in Omaha for a year once as a boy so I have crossed to that side of the Missouri many times. But not this year on this trip. Otherwise I would most surely stop in for a visit. Please tell your man I said 'hey bud'.
    SB
     
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