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Otero

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Whoo! Strong language, I apologize; you're right the world is flat,
and I should be burned for Heresy!!!

zpt
 

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1950s Teagle friction driver on a Raleigh cycle, Britain
"LOT DETAILS
c.1956 Teagle 50cc Cyclemotor & Lady's Raleigh Cycle
Registration no. LSJ 620
Engine no. 7578
Made by a firm of agricultural engineers in Truro, Cornwall, the Teagle was originally intended to power a hedge cutter and would be used to drive motor scythes, lawn mowers and cultivators as well as bicycles. The Teagle was thoughtfully designed and exceptionally well made using the best of modern equipment, selling in the thousands, although its arrival in 1955 missed the cyclemotor's boom years. Teagle ceased production of the 50cc cyclemotor around 1959 but the firm continues in business today. This particular Teagle was taken from its box – brand new – and fitted to this Raleigh bicycle. There are no documents with this Lot."

 

Otero

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You should write Teagle and tell them, what with current fuel
prices, there is once again a viable market for their cyclemotor.
Have 'em send me one while you're at it.

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UK moped rules would be enough to stop them making one here, and the price vs Chinese, no chance.
 

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With regard to UK moped rules:
" Not only should a man break an unjust law, it is his duty to do so."
Thomas Jefferson
 

Ludwig II

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OK, you buy me a new one every time they confiscate it and crush it.

Besides, I actually like the idea that there are minimum construction and safety regulations in force. Forums like this are occupied by the sensible; imagine the roads full of the insensible.
 

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Fine as long as you do not then consider the law unjust.
All I'm saying is that one has the right & duty to defend
one's liberty.
 

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If you could imagine the roads full of the insensible.
all you need do is to look at the Los Angeles freeways.
Motored bikes don't kill people: cars kill people.
 

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Road discipline among many/most UK cyclists is so bad that giving them engines would result in rapid Darwinism; unfortunately, rather than let the idiots die out, motorised bikes would be banned. The current system works quite well.
 

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Undated ?1920s 63cc Motosulm


MAW powered German post bike


1904 Bree engine on a Meteor cycle, Austria


Unknown bike with a Rex engine, Germany
 
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Otero

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There's no doubt in my mind that you are the leading historian of the
motored bicycle, but it almost sounds as if you'd rather there were
no cyclists on the road, their being such an inconvenient source of
congestion. When last did you actually ride? You're begiining to
sound like what we colonials call a "stuffed shirt".
 

Ludwig II

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Not in the slightest. I just know the way the bureaucratic mind works here. My wife was knocked down on a footpath last year by a moron on a bicycle who didn't know how his steering or brakes worked, so I have a rather firm and negative view of many of them.
 
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Otero

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Okay, I can second that, but for every abuse I've seen cyclists make,
I can easily count at least 5 potentially lethal moves by motorists. I
get cut off a regular basis. I've been hit 4 times; fortunately, I was
only 'gravely' injured once. I've been knocked off my bike twice by side
mirrors even though I hug the gutter for dear life. On a 3rd, I smashed
into the side of a car that pulled out right in front of me without looking.
Both drivers that hit me with their mirrors drove off blissfully unaware
I was down. The 4th very nearly killed me, running late for work &
putting on her makeup in the mirror. It would take too long to describe
the extent of my injuries.
I don't have the statistics, but I'll wager the number of those fatally
struck by bicycles is somewhat lower than those killed by cars. Here in
the U.S. there just too damn many cars. Most people wouldn't even
consider public transit. One has to be a gladiator to ride a bike or
motorcycle.
 
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Ludwig II

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Agreed, people in cars are often detached from the reality beyond that old fashioned analogue screen in front of them, and they have to be allowed for when one is in a vulnerable position; even then they can get you when you've done everything right.

I don't know what the behaviour of cyclists is like in other countries. I only know Britain and frankly there are an immense number of lemmings.

I've been fetched off motorcycles while on the road, cycling I do on cyclepaths round here. Roads I avoid where possible. Health events over the past few years have shown me conclusively I'm not immortal.


Perhaps that's part of the dangerous cycling phenomenon, the cyclists are applying the same risk judgements they would in cars, but without adhering to any coherent system of riding.
 
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