Synthetic Oil Question

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atvaholic

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Hi, I did a search on synthetic oils and seems its the way to go after break in. At my local shop they have the following oils:

Amsoil Interceptor

Amsoil 2 Cycle injection Oil

They also have lucas semi synthetic oil.

Which is the best to get? Also these are labeled injector oil, but it says ok to mix as a 50:1 -- Seems crazy to go that high. What would everyone recomend for an 80 cc china engine?
 

Dave31

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I have been running the Lucas for about 10 months now and I am liking it very well. I have heard good things about the amsoil but it's difficult to find and a few $$$ more. And I switched to the Lucas to save some $$.

I run 32:1 with the Lucas.
 

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Hi, I did a search on synthetic oils and seems its the way to go after break in. At my local shop they have the following oils:

Amsoil Interceptor

Amsoil 2 Cycle injection Oil

They also have lucas semi synthetic oil.

Which is the best to get? Also these are labeled injector oil, but it says ok to mix as a 50:1 -- Seems crazy to go that high. What would everyone recomend for an 80 cc china engine?

Those are both the same oils. One (Canada tire) is just an old picture. Interceptor will work, but 32:1-40:1 are better ratios with this oil for the HT engine.

Better Amsoil choices are Saber, which you can easily go to 50:1 with on a HT engine. Remember the OIL and then the application can determine the ratio. Another great choice from Amsoil for a well tuned HT engine is Dominator. This is what I run at around 32:1.
 

Dave31

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Hey, thanks fair - Did you notice any difference with the lucas oil of std 2 strokee oil?
I ran Bel Ray MC 1 full synthetic before the Lucas, never have used any non-synthetic so I have nothing to base it on. But I really did not notice any difference from the full to the semi-synthetic except in my wallet.
 

eomonkeyboi24

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Not in my opinion. Walmart Supertech TCW3 is about half that price for same stuff. I've been using it at 50:1 in my bikes and planes for years no problem.
OK cool, so is synthetic a good way to start the break in or should I use regular oil? and at what ratio to start out with?
 

xlite

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Synthetic is fine for break in.
So you don't believe the viewpoint that mineral is better for break in? I have no personal experience with synthetic but the thing about ring seal etc. makes sense. You sell the synthetic stuff so what is your take on that?

I'm also told it's not as good for storage because it don't coat walls. What about that?

I know Mobil 1 made a huge difference starting my car in the winter.
 

Pablo

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So you don't believe the viewpoint that mineral is better for break in? I have no personal experience with synthetic but the thing about ring seal etc. makes sense. You sell the synthetic stuff so what is your take on that?

I'm also told it's not as good for storage because it don't coat walls. What about that?

I know Mobil 1 made a huge difference starting my car in the winter.
A lot stuff you read on the net/hear from people about oil makes ZERO sense.

Ring seal? I don't follow? Synthetic "too slippery" to allow proper break-in? Poppycock!

"don't coat walls" yikes! Garbage!
 

xlite

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A lot stuff you read on the net/hear from people about oil makes ZERO sense.

Ring seal? I don't follow? Synthetic "too slippery" to allow proper break-in? Poppycock!

"don't coat walls" yikes! Garbage!
Well now, since you put it THAT way...

I guess it's stuff that appears to make sense at first glance but actually ain't true is the real danger. :)