Well, I caught a image posting on motorbicycling that showed a fella using camping fuel bottles for fuel tanks. the sameIf you could find a older sea foam can they had metal screw on tops, and a few others of day gone by.......Curt
Good thing that you got out of there and went to another job area. I've got a friend that worked for Modine Manufacturing inDennis, I know all too well about triclor. I apprenticed at Furnas Electric Batavia, Illinois and for a three month stint served in the Screw Machineshop adjacent to the plating shop doing electroplating Dichromate of selected parts. The fellows in the stripping and plating end of the building were doomed. The sight of one individual haunts me still.
The guys in the screw machine shop wanted me to stay with them and mind you it was a good grounding in turning machine practices but I knew better than to forsake my trade as a Tool and Die Maker.
Tom
I did a search on Amazon and there are better prices and other manufacturers that make a comparable product.If you could find a older sea foam can they had metal screw on tops, and a few others of day gone by.......Curt
Looks like you found what you need Dennis. Years ago I won a bid on a box at an auction, in it I found a old school 1qt camping fuel flask, nickle plated with a brass cap.I did a search on Amazon and there are better prices and other manufacturers that make a comparable product.
Take your pick: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=MSR+Liquid+Fuel+Bottle&i=sporting&ref=nb_sb_noss
Great find! These fuel tanks sent with the kits aren't really big enough for a 212cc they are ok for a 49cc but aLooks like you found what you need Dennis. Years ago I won a bid on a box at an auction, in it I found a old school 1qt camping fuel flask, nickle plated with a brass cap.
Tom
That wax should work pretty good on the chains and I need to get some on order. We got another rain lastnight and it won'tFirst thing I did on my Huffy build Dennis, was order that gallon tank from bike berry. 49cc ain't hard on gas but if you want any kind of range. For me, anywhere but East could run you dry before the next fuel stop. Your 212cc you need a tank like my Flyer has.
I pulled my chains out of the crockpot when we got home from last breakfast and that new speed wax is slippery.
Getting the chains out of that hot wax was like herding spaghetti with chop sticks.
Tom
Some of them ole timers have warned about fenders coming loose on the motorized bike which results in injuries..I was back in the shop briefly to correct the front fender strut mounting screws catching on the tire tread. I turned the 10-32 button heads to the inside of the fender and using acorn nuts with Loctite blue and shakeproof washers on top side. Photos to follow when my new camera comes on line.
Tom
Yeah, I don't ride this thing in any heavy traffic but this Winter the disk brakes and suspension forks are going on it. I stillYes Dennis I'm one of those old guys that often warn others about the dangers fenders present, but and notice I say but, because it's important; when fenders are well designed and use really good materials and are fitted and installed with care, they are great! They should always be inspected pre-ride for continued integrity. This is the owners responsibility.
Tom is taking his time and doing it right. He recently posted about clearance issues and was making changes to address fitting issues. Tom is a tool and die guy who works daily in .001" increments, so I give him credit for handling fractional problems with ease...on a fender. Old guy warnings are primarily intended for newbs to moto bike building as a heads up to use fenders with great caution or not at all in their builds. I'm capable of building a safe fender but choose not to, but I really like the look and utility of fenders when done properly.
I'm a believer in disk brakes on classic or any other style bike that will be ridden in traffic. I've only one bike without at least a front disk brake and I seldom ride it because of this fact. Two is much better. I feel an old guys daily rider deserves a suspension fork and saddle as a gift to his health, welfare and riding pleasure. Your bikes frame will also hold up much better with a suspension fork, the 212 is heavy and places strain on the frame from weight as well as the large torque. When a bike is ridden a lot good brakes and suspension are really important, plus you can work on these things over the winter.
Rick C.
Rick, I might consider going with the Lifan 125cc and since you have quite a bit of experience with them I'll probably be keepingDennis proper gusseting will really help protect your frame as will a well designed engine mount.
I've used the 4 speed and auto 125cc Lifan horizontal engines in the past and they work well, though they require extensive frame alteration to work in most non-stretch bicycle based builds. Stock power of the Lifan is about the same as the 212 but less torque, however the 4 speed transmission and clutch more than make up for lower torque in the Lifan engine. Sixty mph in a hurry. Weight between the two engines is pretty similar. The Predator can easily be & greatly powered up with readily available performance parts however, the Lifan is pretty much what it is, power wise.
Rick C.
Rick, looks like the height and width are good the length might work if the engine can be tilted a little for the head to clear.Dennis the Lifan 4 speed manual clutch, kick start engine weighs 45 lbs/21 kilos. and measures18.5"x11"x11" approximate inches as I converted from metric to fractions rounded up slightly.
Electric start is heavier not sure on the automatic as to exact weight & size.
Rick C.
Rick, looks like the height and width are good the length might work if the engine can be tilted a little for the head to clear.
I suspect the weight is mostly from the transmission. A kick start wouldn't be all that bad. I sure that a electric starter
will fit on the bike with the 212cc and then you have the extra weight of the starter and battery. The Lifan might be
something to look into this Winter as a project even on a custom bike frame? Thanks Rick for looking up those dimensions
for me. There's a fella on YouTube that has built a custom frame for a 212cc and I need to see what he came up with he
wasn't using the CVT on his just a clutch on it. His bike was a trail bike and the frame was heavy square tubing.
Dennis
Rick, check this chain tensioner out I've been looking for one of these and it seems the fellas that have it want to keep it a secret?The electric start Lifan 125cc works well and some models can still use the kick start as well. I've used them in off road go carts (no need for kick start on these) and these are available with 3 speed and reverse which would be good for a side car rig, but not so much on a solo bike, lol.
Rick C.