WOW, What can I say?
"also someone out there said there sitting on hoots and will sell them cheap i think its dax"
I don't know about Dax, but I have a bunch of "Hoot" boxes & clutches for sale cheap. Did I mention the word "cheap"? Contact me for a "cheap" price.
There are several comments I find necessary to make, first I like 4 strokes, secondly I would only consider frame mount and lastly many should be ashamed of the less than acceptable quality we have had shoved down our throats for many years. Of course we deserve it because we continue to show our support by continuing to buy the "stuff".
Of course a dose of "you get what you pay for" might be injected into this post. How can we expect something that sells for a little over $100.00, to be tested, endure any quality control, or have a great warranty?
My preference for 4 stroke is based on 15 years of MC racing, because all my 2 strokes needed rebuilt between every race and the 4 strokes were rebuilt once a year. And the 2 stroke were quality units [Yamaha, AJS, Kawaski, Bultaco, Carabela, etc], not made in China. And I like the power band, torque. and sound of the 4 stroke motor.
My like for frame mounts is simple, center of gravity & handling, and I know a few praise rack mounts, but I have watched many of them fall over when parked because of the high center of gravity, of course the great thing about America is "we have choices".
I won't bother to comment on what some companies continue to market, however I am somewhat disapointed that many continue to buy the "system 2" to fix the problem of "system 1", and then buy "system 3" to upgrade "system 2", etc.
After a lot of research we found the little 49 CC 4-stroke motors to be very durable, and unlike most 2-strokes, it was made for a different use. The little 4 stroke was made to run for a long time in a stationary position [water pumps, generators, etc], and was self cooling via the flywheel/cover system. It is a shame the little motor was disgraced by attaching low quality drive systems to power our motobikes.
I also know some try to act like their motor is "different", but the motors share the same basics, and 99% of the parts are interchangeable. The major difference is in the final drive system, some turn one way, some the other, some have reduction boxes, some don't, some have built in clutches, some don't, some have different shaft lengths and shaft O.D.s, but the basic motor is the same. I can state from a lot of testing the 49 CC 4-stroke is a "Winner", and I have tested several version of the HS and also the Honda. In fact a couple of our dealers just attached our Q-Matic to the larger Harbor Frieght "Greyhound" motor, and it worked great.
Because of drive system issues with many suppliers, EZM will offer the new Q-matic [via authorized dealers] to fit many [most] of the 4-stroke frame mounted motors. We have tested the majority of this drive system for over a year, and the automatic clutch is made by MaxTorque, the leader in clutch design, of course it is American made and costs more. We built in the majority of features many requested including, adaptability, off the shelf parts when possible, American suppliers, fabricators, machine shops, and labor throughout. We also listened about upgrades, and the Q-matic, Silent drive, and Quite Power can be customized to fit the need of the motorbiker.
At least we are trying to put a little quality back into the equasion and so far we have been 99% succesful.
We are currenty expanding into sprokets, mounts, & rear drive systems. We hope to have several of the better designs available via our dealers in the near future. There are some promising designs already being tested and hopefully we can add something in the process.
Have fun,