Yeah, Yer prolly right. I've never met a REAL smart cop. A whole bunch of smart a$$ cops, But never a smart one.
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If no laws specifically apply to or against gas powered bicycles then how can you be charged with violating any Texas laws that don't yet exist? Cindy forgot to mention that little conundrum. LOLI called Cindy Flores in Oct 2010 and she gave me a different answer so I think the DPS thinking may have changed a little from the time this thread was first posted.
What she told me is that the Texas moped law was not designed to include motor bicycles, and that as it stands now motor bicycles are a gray area in the law.
What that means is not exactly legal, and not exactly illegal. The reason being is that, since there's no law specifically identifying motor bicycles, there's going to need to be a court case to set legal precedent. Officer Flores said as far as she knows that's never happened in Texas as of Oct 2010.
It was just assumed before 2008, when nobody really cared, that the moped law would cover motor bicycles. The problem with that is, in order to get a conviction for something like a ticket for riding an unregistered moped a prosecutor will have to prove in court that a motor bicycle fits the legal description of a moped in Texas.
The opinion now seems to be that, that's going to be an iffy proposition, and not necessarily in any prosecutor's best interest to find out.
Because in Texas all motor vehicles are considered self propelled. So any vehicle not otherwise covered by a specific law, will be considered a motor vehicle if it can be proven to be self propelled.If no laws specifically apply to or against gas powered bicycles then how can you be charged with violating any Texas laws that don't yet exist? Cindy forgot to mention that little conundrum. LOL
All you criminal outlaws riding your motorized bicycles in Texas are not exactly outlaws......just yet anyway.
The only problem with that is it doesn't specifically state that anywhere on the Texas DMV website. The All for One and One for All Law. LOLBecause in Texas all motor vehicles are considered self propelled. So any vehicle not otherwise covered by a specific law, will be considered a motor vehicle if it can be proven to be self propelled.
This is why you must always pedal your motor bicycle away from stops. As long as no police officer can say he saw you ride off without pedaling, the state has no witness against you.
Actually it does, you just don't know where to look.The only problem with that is it doesn't specifically state that anywhere on the Texas DMV website. The All for One and One for All Law. LOL
A mediocre defense lawyer would have a field day with this in court.
Well you obviously know something that not even DPS Overlord, Cindy Flores could find or explain. I hope you're proud of yourself.Actually it does, you just don't know where to look.
I don't understand what your gubbub is all about. Nobody in all of Texas is being harassed for riding a motor bicycle. Probably where you live, more people get harassed. Are you glad we don't have a motorized bicycle specific law, or are you mad about it?Well you obviously know something that not even DPS Overlord, Cindy Flores could find or explain. I hope you're proud of yourself.
I don't understand what your gubbub is all about. Nobody in all of Texas is being harassed for riding a motor bicycle. Probably where you live, more people get harassed. Are you glad we don't have a motorized bicycle specific law, or are you mad about it?
I know laws usually are black and white, but she said we ride in a gray area. After talking to her personally, I think she knows what she's talking about.
Why don't you try calling her, and get her to explain it to you?
In the 50 states that make up the USA, there is no such thing as "Semi-Legal". Something is either technically "Legal" or it's "Illegal". The is no 3rd option in this country.I don't understand what your gubbub is all about. Nobody in all of Texas is being harassed for riding a motor bicycle. Probably where you live, more people get harassed. Are you glad we don't have a Jackshaft Assembly for less money specific law, or are you mad about it?
I know laws usually are black and white, but she said we ride in a gray area. After talking to her personally, I think she knows what she's talking about.
Why don't you try calling her, and get her to explain it to you?
Pedaling like a circus monkey and riding as far to the right as possible doesn't hurt either. Most cops don't know what to do, even if there's laws specifically regulating them in your state. It works for me. LOLI was out riding my Jackshaft Assembly for less money yesterday and passed a county cop going the opposite way and he just waved . I am glad there are no laws on Jackshaft Assembly for less moneys yet hope it stays that way . I have found that if stopped yes sirs and no sirs keep most problems from happening .
If we get charged with anything for riding a motorized bicycle, it will be for riding an unregistered moped.In the 50 states that make up the USA, there is no such thing as "Semi-Legal". Something is either technically "Legal" or it's "Illegal". The is no 3rd option in this country.
No cop can legally give you a citation without including the code violation that you allegedly violated being clearly written on the ticket......unless you get pulled over in Mexico. Then anything goes. May God have mercy on your soul. LOL
Police may not always enforce low level laws but it doesn't change the fact that it is still illegal, ......until the statute making it so is repealed, removed or struck down.
That is a distinct possibility for sure. My motorized bicycle is registered as a moped but in California it was pretty easy. Not sure how easy it would be in Texas.If we get charged with anything for riding a motorized bicycle, it will be for riding an unregistered moped.
It can't be done, because there's no VIN. Texas has no method available for us to try to get a VIN for a bicycle.That is a distinct possibility for sure. My motorized bicycle is registered as a moped but in California it was pretty easy. Not sure how easy it would be in Texas.
Anybody have a motorized bicycle in Texas registered as a moped?
Uh Houston,......we have a problem.Only mopeds on Texas's approved list can be registered.
I can't imagine you would be high up on any cops To Do list unless you're just acting like a maniac going down the road or spewing smoke out of your exhaust pipe. I would keep my motorized bicycle as quiet as possible as well in Texas. Leave the stock muffler on it. LOLLuckily they don't bother us anywhere in the state.