Tachometer

Discussion in 'Motorized Bicycle General Discussion' started by MarkTur, Jun 7, 2008.

  1. ZnsaneRyder

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    is there a gauge type for the 4 strokes
     
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    that last one needs a electric sending unit and drive ratio thing,if you get a tach you want everything included and make sure its for your type of engine.
     
  4. matt167

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    a diesel tach won't work with a gas engine. they work diffrently
     
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    Hey guys, can i take a tachometer out of a car and put it on my bike? If i find something within the rev range of the bike obviously im just wondering if a car one needs more of a pulse from the coil than the bike does? I mite go get one from a junk yard and do some experimenting unless im told its impossible.
     
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    no i already checked into that
    car tachs only work on 4, 6, and 8 cylynders
     
  7. matt167

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    not only that, there 4 strokes so they only fire every other revoloution where as the 2 stroke fires every revoloution.. and they also require 12v feed... theoreticly a 2cyl 4 stroke tach would work and read correctly on a single cylinder 2 stroke but that still leaves you without the 12v supply
     
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    12v cordless drill battery recharges in 1hour last for days $18 walmart.
     
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    so what about a gauge style tachometer for the gxh50
    I can't find one
    Does anyone know of one
     
  10. matt167

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    should have specified more... car tachs use a 12v signal ( along with a 12v feed ) ( DC ) from the - side of the coil. it switches on and off and the tach 'counts' those pulses..couldn't use it on a High voltage A/C signal, like that of a magneto.
     
  11. matt167

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    it's a 4 stroke single cylinder, so any inductive tachometer for a single cylinder would work.
     
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    hey matt i appreciate the help but i dont know too much about these things

    i need to know where to find one
     
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    Start on page one of this thread, there are several posted.
     
  14. matt167

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    IMHO Tiny tachs are a waste of money.. they read in digital and because of that, they have a 2.5s response time.. that means if your running without a governer, you could grenade the engine from over revving because the tach will always be 500-1,000 RPM below actual on a steady increase..

    hit up the go kart racing sites, they have fast acting analog tachs that will run off inductive timing on single cylinder 4 strokes
     
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    Ok, I'm a real "Johnny-come-lately" on this thread, but I've just checked into this meter (from 2 different sources) for my 66cc 2-cycle "Jet" kit and find that its' update time is a whopping 2 seconds! Seems waaay too slow. Small diameter tachs are available for the Harleys for under $40 on eBay...2 cyl., 4 cycle = 1 cylinder 2-cycle?...right? I just don't know what the pickup method is..?...probably not Hall Effect or inductive, the (only?) 2 types that might work with the 2-strokes...? The Whizzer now has an accessory, std. on their "Ambassador" model, # WK-400NE Hall Effect tach kit for $71.75, but that's a 4-cycle (also 12 volt), so no-go on a 2-stroke. Anyone have any luck with the Harley item?
     
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    my thinking is 2 cyl 4 stroke would work for our china engines if it were the right pickup type.. problem I see is, Harleys use a 12v coil, and the tach likely needs a 12v feed as well as the switching 12v signal from the - side of the coil...

    I'll agree, with a 2.00-2.50 second response time, Tiny tach's are worthless..your engine could be blown b4 the tach will show what's going on
     
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    RPM-meter

    Does anybody know how to measure RPM's? Has anybody some electronic circuit diagram representing measurement on LED's line or LED display? If I would have it I could make and test this device.
     
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    Re: RPM-meter

    Digital Tachometer Kit

    Look in the PDF for the actual schematic. I don't think it includes the hall-effect sensor, so you'd have to add that yourself. The Melexis 90217 is a good one.

    Edit: Not to hijack the thread, but could you possibly run an inductor in parallel with the HV spark plug wire to "sense" when it fires the plug? Just a thought.
     
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    Re: RPM-meter

    I use something called Tiny-Tach. It shows RPMs and Engine Hour run time. When I hit 10 hours I change the oil (4 stroke).
     
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    Re: RPM-meter

    Wow, the Tiny-Tach actually does the inductor thing...thanks =]
     

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