Magic Pie 3 Doesn't Do anything

[beach cruiser]

Guess I need some educated guesses now. I charged up the battery and purchased a 25 amp ac plug and receptacle per Mike B's suggestions. And the only thing that happens is the Thumb Throttle lights up nothing else happens.

I'm thinking that it has to be grounded out, but there is no ground wire from the motor or the battery. The plug and receptacle has a spot for a ground wire but the motor's wiring and the battery has no ground wires. What do I do.
Sorry guys but electrical stuff is not my forte.

I can't return the Magic Pie because I bought it back in February and I just now got the battery.

 

[paul]

have you checked the voltage coming out of the battery? i guess that is the first place i would start.

 

[Easy Rider]

check the basics first.
Make sure your throttle is firmly plugged into slot #3
Check the connection near the hub. Make sure both arrows are aligned
Check polarity connections.
If your using a disc brake, the bolts need to be filed down because they will rub on the inside of the hub.
There's not a whole lot that can go wrong with the MP3.

 

[Mike B]

The cable that comes out of the MP3 hub with the 2 heavy guage wires is connected to batt + and minus. You will want the plug socket wired in series with the + connection, the minus should just be connected.

 

[beach cruiser]

Mike,
Sorry if I don't understand. Please bear with me. The way I had the male and female connections connected was black to black and red to red. There are no ground wires to connect.

 

[kevyleven007]

yes black to black and red to red that's right there is no ground wire. Try this, disconnect the brake levers and the cruise control. Does it work now? What lights up on the throttle? Full? or empty? Unplug it and wait a minute then plug it back in.

 

[kevyleven007]

The cable that comes out of the MP3 hub with the 2 heavy guage wires is connected to batt + and minus. You will want the plug socket wired in series with the + connection, the minus should just be connected.

Smart thinking! I didn't think about that, thanks.

 

[beach cruiser]

k007,
I have the plug and receptacle wired ...Red to red, black to black. The 3 lights on throttle all light up (full, half empty) no blinking just steady on. No other lights light up. Absolutely no movement on the MP3. I've plugged and unplugged all connections several times still nothing.

 

[Mike B]

So the controller lights up and you twist the grip and the wheel has no torque?

 

[Intrepid Wheelwoman]

Are all the wires in the connectors crimped properly? I purchased a controller recently where one of the wires was crimped down on the wire insulation and wasn't passing any current.

 

[paul]

beach cruiser is the wheel hard to turn by hand? if so it would mean the controller is bad and i am sure the company would replace it

 

[beach cruiser]

Thanks for all the help...I suspect that I have a bad hub controller. Maybe they shipped me a re-manufactured hub because when I opened the box I noticed several scratches on the hub and the box was in perfect condition.

 

[Mike B]

Are you using the MP brake levers with the switches?

If so, unplug the brake wires and try again. If you have a bad switch that is tripped, the controller will not power the motor as it thinks the brake is on.

If you get wheel power, then just the switch is bad.

 

[deacon]

Biggest problem I have with controllers is finding those two switch wires to hook together. Never can get a wiring diagram with a controller that makes any sense. I am gonna have to learn Mandarin I guess.

 

[Lungcookie]

Have you played with the programmer?
I set the brake regen to 0% and it killed the throttle.
Need at least 1% to work...for me.

 

[beach cruiser]

I got the thing to work after trying Mike B's suggestion of disconnecting each brake lever (thanks Mike B). Seems as though #1 is bad. At least the thing is working now. I'm using my own brake levers as the power stored using the regenerative system is miniscule and my own brakes work just fine. Golden Motor never responded to my emails. One of threaded caps for the spokes worked it's way loose and fell inside the wheel ring and is now rattling every time the wheel turns.

 

[Mike B]

You only need 1 lever to trip regen, use the good one for the rear brake.

I love regen, it almost eliminates the need for brakes. Set it to engage just before brake engagement and you will not need much friction brake at all.

In emergency, grab all the brake you can.

I would fix that spoke. It's gonna be hella hard to get that nipple out of that double wheel though.

I'm good eh? Yeah Baby, I Rock -

 

[paul]

nipple easy to get out, just take of tire then the rim tape and it will fall out one of the holes. re thread it and you should be all set, i put a little dab of loc tite on all the nipples and havnt had any loosen since. as far as the regan braking i love it to and as mike said you only need one connected on your motorized bicycle

 

[beach cruiser]

Yeah you rock Mike B! So do you Paul....Now I'm fiddling with the software program. I have to contend with a very long steep hill getting home. Speed falls below 5 mph even with me peddling like a stuck pig. I've had to have the wife on standby so she can come get me so I can load the bike on the bike carrier.
Am unsure of 3 of the parameters to input into the program so I can get more power to get me up the hill, ie.... In the 1st box Labeled MAX CURRENT what should I enter?
In the 2nd box labeled Motor Type what do I enter in the PHASE BOX?
In the 3rd box labeled PAS Level what should I enter? BTW my weight is 205!

 

[Mike B]

You don't have to do anything, the factory defaults are pretty maxed out allready. Must be a killer hill.

What battery did you get? Did you ever run the battery out?

Dunno. I've never connected a computer to the pie.