Thanks, just found Don's Stingray thread. The bike I looked at yesterday appears to be a little different but very much like his. The brakes, only rears, mount just behind the seat stay at about the nine oclock position viewed from the left side. I'll have to check out the sprocket adapter he used because obviously the rubber sandwich method won't work. I have accss to a complete machine shop so fabing up a hub / sprocket adapter shouldn't be that big a deal. I hate to drill holes in this thing, like I said it's brand new. It still has the cardboard in the spokes and it has never been ridden. It was bought for a grandson by a proud grandfather but the kid is only two. It'll be a while before he can ride and it and now grandad wants it out of his garage. I have to buy it. I want front brakes so that will be another mod that will have to be done. A disc setup would look way cool on this mini-chopper.