hey does any no if these are actually 80cc or just 66cc ?
As Alman stated they are 48 or 66cc, there is no such thing as an 80cc and the web sites that advertize them as such really irritate me.
Anyway this is an old topic back to 2010 before the new US 2010 EPA regs kicked in regulating all the China motors.
The only
legally imported engines since then are Skyhawks and that is only because Don Grube coughed up the $10K+ to jump through the hoops.
Gasbike/Kings are the only importers and both are run by the same LLC holding company.
Don sold out and retired (Good for him!) so now all they do is move boxes here in the states.
No tech support, no nothing, but the best damn kits for the money in my opinion.
~$200 delivered unless of course you subscribe to their mailing list.
Every major US Holiday I get a nice coupon, for the 4th of July I got one for $25 off so $176 delivered so I bought 2.
In short, any 48 or 66cc non-skyhawk motor for sale now has been in the box on shore well over a year and their EPA certified BS is 2009, but that don't mean they are total junk, I don't know nor do I care.
I read about all these problems with the 'cheap' kits so never bought one.
My first kit was a Skyhawk and 30 or so builds later it is still the only 2-stroke kits I buy.
Why?
Because I make my living building MB's, high end usually so I don't have time to dick with a crap kit is all, I expect it to go together easy and fire right up and 95% they do.
All the spare parts that come with every Skyhawk really add up when you do volume as well.
I mean what I am going to do with 30 gear pullers, gaskets, plugs, that stupid 'drill through the frame' front mount, etc etc?
I use or sell 'em local and in the long run pay less per motor than the cheapest motor kit you can buy.
Granted I may be a special case but the topic was about who knows the Skyhawk kits and I do know a bit about them ;-)