Dose any one build and sell ? Im thinking of doing it.
I was also looking at making jugs and cases using my black sithing skills
I was also looking at making jugs and cases using my black sithing skills
Ditto for me. I built and sold 7 of my "Chrome Micargi Cruisers" in the French Qt before this sunk in. It's been almost 2 years since I sold my last one. I gave no reciepts and took cash only, so with the normally short life of these in inexperienced hands, and a little more time I prolly will be OK and can stop worrying about it..I'm asked often if I build to sell and my reply is "too much liability". Too many hungry lawyers and lawsuit happy people out there for me. One mishap, I get blamed and sued, I'm finished.
If you can find a way to protect yourself, go for it. But just be careful, and have insurance.
Tom
^ Interesting, I happen to also be a very part time hot air balloonist ( 34k ultralight single place ) And If I remember my FAR, and pilot training manuals. There were some examples of the so called " hold harmless agreements " and in them they went to great lengths to also include any family members, relatives. siblings, friends, and any business associates from suing, or any legal action whatsoever... I guess it would help to have an attorney type this up for you. Seems like then, it should be pretty air tight?Unfortuatly, "Hold Harmless" Agreements are not much protection at all. Ask any lawyer. If there's money in it for them, they will eagerly fight it in court.. Especialy if someone becomes permanantly incapacitated or dies on something that you built. There's no protection at all to keep the family from suing.
I used to be an Ultralight instructor, and after dealing with a few crazy students, I decided that I was exposing myself and my estate to too much liability risk.
I am building 2 for the same customer , even after making him aware of these motors idiosyncrosy's .he is the only one so far that has not tried to haggle me down to a point where I would be paying them for a bike . after I politely explain to the hagglers that I will not compromise my product, reputation, or their safety , they seem to understand, an it accomplishes 1 important thing you get the folks who are genuinly interested in owning a mb.I've built 3 bikes and sold them at cost on craigslist. I would post in the add all the costs and that I'm not making a dime on the sale. People would still haggle me down. And when I say no this is my price they would get offended. It's a problem of people wanting something for nothing.
thats the parts an service end of it , ya just treat it like a auto dealer treats you when you bring back your car for service ....regardless of how you have abused it . its not a cut an dry sale never see it again its being the dealer who sells you the vehicle an services the vehicle , so you make maoney on the sale an when they return for service you have the opportunity to make labor charges an parts sales .Besides the liability issue, as already stated an always present and obvious cloud hanging over these things, there's no real money in it. Equally frustrating for me is finding the right customers. By that I mean folks who want to lay out good money and KNOW they are gonna have to maintain and tinker on the thing some because, well it's a bicycle. Hard finding those kind of people. The folks who approach me, by and large for the most part, are the kind that think they'd be buying a Honda or Yamaha quality scooter for 1/3 the price. I just know they would be a real pain in the neck expecting me to maintain and take care of every little thing that might come up, regardless of how they abused it.