Blood, sweat, fun, now the tears. Help!

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  1. Runningboy

    Runningboy New Member

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    Hello to all from Boulder, CO. Want to start by thanking everybody who contributes to this forum. It has been a big help in building my bike.

    I am 50 and a BIG guy (wide). Wanted to get off the couch and get some exercise and some sun and saw the motorized bikes on the Internet and was hooked. Made me remember the days when I was 12 and would have maimed someone to get a motorized bike to ride. Saw the motors for $250 and was beyond my budget but then looked on Ebay and found the Powerking 80cc (I know they are 69cc - been reading the forum alot) motors for $125 and decided to jump.

    Ordered the motor kit and spent a couple of days on research and then bought the Schwinn Jaguar from Target cause it looked like the kit would mount up without additional fabrication. Turned out to be wrong on that but I like the bike except for the handlebars and will probably change those.(ordered the motor on Saturday and it was on the porch the next Friday which was pretty fast -

    have to say here that I have been perfectly happy with the Powerking kit - got the new "BLACK" motor and I could still smell the new paint job when I pulled it out of the box and part of it rubbed off while I had the motor laying on the work bench but a little touch up will fix that and the black does look kinda cool - thought it might also be a little stealth touch for the cops when they spot me on the bike trails/sidewalks - (oh he's just coasting) the motor starts so easy and runs great - I did replace the spark plug with a Champion plug as suggested in the forum. The only damage was a slighlty busted air filter and I ordered a new one from Dax.) Everything was there and seemed to be good quality.

    You know you can say what you want about these motor kits but the replacement parts are so cheap so what if it wears out a little quickly. They are so cheap you could buy the parts and keep a replacement on hand and not even have the down time. Gas is how much a gallon?

    I got the motor mounted with some mount extensions I made and it seems to be rock solid. Used some 6mm stock I bought to replace and lengthen the mounting studs. Really did a good job on the first try on the mount and was so proud and then found out the motor was so far forward the chain was too short. Dammit! After hacksawing the extensions in half and remounting the motor everything went pretty smooth after that. The bike tubes looked like a beaver had been chewing on them by the time I had mounted and taken off the motor a few (six) times but some black tape hid the evidence fine. (Screw the looks I want to ride.)

    A tip for Jaguar builds- get the front motor mount extension from Dax and drill the the front tube and I think it would be a perfect fit since my extensions I used in the rear ended up being one inch long. My kit did not come with the front bolt on extension mount and I was not gonna wait to order one.
    After you get the motor mounted, the rear sprocket bolted on, and the chain on the rest is really easy.

    Spent three full days on the build and was ready for gas and the test ride. Fired right up on first ride and ran like a top up and down the street a few times. Next day came home from work at lunch cause I couldn't wait to try it again and it would not start. :confused: Went back to work sad (and sore cause I fell making a sharp uturn while trying to get it started and skinned the ole knee and broke my locking clutch lever - double dammit!) but came home that evening and found I had put the paper fuel filter on upside down. :rolleyes: (It's always something) Used the back brake for the clutch lever and turned the fuel filter over and it fired right up and has not missed a beat since. Starts so easy, just two pedals and pop the clutch and go. (Ordered a new locking clutch from Dax who is nicely located for me in Littleton, CO only about 30 miles away and it was here three days later. Nice job Dax.)

    Since finishing the build 9 days ago I have ridden 70 miles. This includes commuting to work 3 miles each way for 6 days (didn't start my car for six days) and across town three or four times. Only problem prior to today was I ran out of gas on Saturday (over estimated the mileage a little and didn't fill it up before I left the house) and ended up pushing it up hill about three blocks to a gas station who thankfully had a quart of 2 stroke oil on the shelf. Paniced a little there! (Tip for noobies. Carry some 2 stroke oil with you cause without it you are screwed no matter how many gas stations are close.)

    Now for the bad news and a request for help. Left work at lunch today and rode about a mile. Picked up some lunch to go and jumped on the bike. Took off, started the bike and went about 10 ft and the back wheel locked up. Got off and the chain had parted at the master link and was jammed in the spokes. (Yes I had the master link clip facing the right direction) What really surprised me though is that my back wheel is toast. Seriously bent out of shape. Ruined I think!!

    Ok, I knew in my heart that the master link on that chain was going to fail when I put it on but I figured that when it did fail I would go to Tractor Supply and get a chain tool and do away with the master link completely. (As suggested in this forum) No big deal about the chain as I am sure I can keep that from happening again (live and learn) but now I am going to have to replace the rear wheel too. Bummer! (And pull off the rear sprocket and remount it which was a pain in the backside with hand tools - man it took forever to get it tight. That was where the blood came from - skinned knuckles.)

    :confused: I need some direction in replacing the back wheel. I don't think replacing the spokes will fix it but I am not sure. It is really bent. At least three inches out of true looks like. Spokes really got bent. The Jaguar is a seven speed (I like having the seven speed and I did not want to have to modify the sprocket for a coaster brake) so it has the gears on the rear wheel. Just not sure where to go for a replacement. I think I can pull the gears off so all I need is a new rim but I have no idea where to get one that will allow me to fit the gears back on.

    Thanks for reading this book and for any help you might be able to give. Meant to post this sooner a little at a time but was having too much fun with the build and the riding that I didn't want to stop to post. Got a little downtime now. :( But I am going to get er back together and get back out there asap. Hope you like the pics. Will post some of the build later.
     

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  2. paul

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    don't be sorry about the book it was a great read and reminded me of my jaguar i built which was my first and had every little problem you did lol. what i suggest on the rear wheel is if it is that bad just go pick up a new one at a bike shop. cheap ones are around 30 bucks tops and they can put your 7 gear cassett right on it. my chain broke and did the exact same thing and with the cost to rebuild and tune and spokes for the wheel and the week they wanted to do it i said no give me a new wheel for i didn't want to wait and was up and running that day. good job getting rid of the master link for i busted mine on my new bike and i knew better but it was so much easier to put it together with the master link lol. i am 50 also and the motorized bicycle makes me feel like a kid again. they are a blast. glad to have you with us and that black bicycle motor looks mighty fine on the jaguar (^)
     
  3. nitroscope8

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    Tee hee, your filter is backwards in those pictures.
     
  4. Bikeguy Joe

    Bikeguy Joe Godfather of Motorized Bicycles

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    Yep, I'd go to the bike shop and get a new wheel and have them put the cassette on it.

    Either that or find a cheapo mtb and put the wheel on the Jag.

    I have a perpetual one rear wheel deficit, I bought a bike so I could use the (cheap) rear coaster brake wheel, now I have a spare bike minus the rear wheel. It's become my parts bike.
     
  5. jasonh

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    yeah, I'd do what others have suggested and just go to a bike shop, or rob an old mountain bike of it's wheel. Bikes are so popular 'round here, shouldn't be too much trouble :)

    (as an aside...when I moved to the area I got a little bike-shock seeing SO many people on bikes everywhere - even up the large hills on the highways. Quite different from Phoenix where the only time you rode a bike was if you HAD to. I now pedal to work 13 miles round trip a few times a week. Lol)

    Good to have another person in the area.

    On the subject of Dax, him being so close, I wish we could just do pickup instead of having to wait (and pay) for shipping.

    Good luck with your rear wheel.

    by the way, what is powerkings' ebay ID? I'd like to take a look at their selection.. Nevermind, found it :)
     
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  6. Runningboy

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    Thanks guys. Gonna check out the local bike shops this weekend for replacement wheel. Good idea for letting them install the casette on it.

    And thanks for noticing Nitro :) (Be nice to the noobies now.) I did own up to the filter snafu in the post. I did look at the arrow before I put it on but somewhere in cutting the tubing and installing it I turned it upside down. Funny thing is it started and ran fine that way for a few laps around the block but would not start the next day.

    Yea Jason, I had the same experience when I moved to Colorado two years ago seeing the bikes everywhere. Sunday looks like the tour de france here. You really have to be careful driving up here because they will nail you to the wall if you run over a biker with your car. First thing my sister warned me about when I moved up here. Works out nicely now that I am going to be one of the bikers. Boulder is supposed to be the most bike friendly town in America. Most of the roads have a designated bike lane on the side which is great. The cement bike paths are everywhere but sadly the motorized bikes are not allowed on them. They are thinking about allowing the electric bikes on the paths but those are banned now too. I use one for a little ways on my ride to work and have not had anybody complain yet. Woops gonna be late for work. Talk at ya later.
     
  7. jasonh

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    Interesting, I thought anything under 50cc could ride and park anywhere bikes could in Boulder. Good to know. I'd assume it's similar here in Longmont. I only use maybe 150-200ft of a bike path on my way to work - just over a little bridge. The rest is all normal 25-35mph roads. And the mall parking lot that I cut through :)
     
  8. Pablo

    Pablo Master Bike Builder & Forum Sponsor

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    Purty bike - I gotta say that dude looks like a perfect fit for a shifter kit. Just get rid of the long hurkey chain, tensioner and cramp on sprocket.
     
  9. Ilikeabikea

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    Welcome the forum. I love my Jaguar motorized bicycle. The handle bars bothered me a little so I moved my seat back a couple of inches. That made it perfect for my 50+ year old portly body. Glad you joined us.......................
     
  10. Runningboy

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    Shifter kit. Ooooooooh new gadget. (I can hear my wallet weeping queitly.) Never heard of the shifter kit. Have to look it up.
     
  11. jasonh

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    Yea I had read that thread before and I think I would buy the kit but it looks like it is strictly in the prototype stage right now.
     
  13. Pablo

    Pablo Master Bike Builder & Forum Sponsor

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    I can assure you we have moved into production - I was assembling parts at 5 AM today!! :p (^)

    We will start shipping the week of 7/14.

    We have 3 months of hard riding on 3 different bikes, with no serious failures, and some minor ideas for improvements which have already been incorporated and are in use.
     
  14. Runningboy

    Runningboy New Member

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    Oh OK. Cool! I will have to go back and take a closer look at it. It kinda made me dizzy trying to figure out what was happening there. But I think I see it and I like the idea of having the original bicycle chain be the drive. Makes sense that it would work better since it was manufactured to drive the bike. Being able to shift would be really cool. Look forward to more info.
     
  15. nogoodnic

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    Welcome to the forum Runningboy. there are a bunch of great members here willing to lend a hand. Enjoy the ride...Kelly:ride2:
     

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