2 Stroke Engine Product Lifespan in USA

Discussion in 'Motorized Bicycle General Discussion' started by Motorbikenewb, Oct 18, 2013.

  1. Scott.D.Lang

    Scott.D.Lang Member

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    same here Ill have to learn to weld but they dont want me to build some of the things Ive dreamed of lolxct2
     
  2. Huffydavidson

    Huffydavidson STREETRACER/MANUFACTURER

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    Yeah right scott in your dreams Pal.
    Lollaff
     
  3. Scott.D.Lang

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    Dan you seem to forget what I did for a living before I got hurt and only 2 things hold me back from some of the builds Ive thought of now that is money and knowing how to weld. lol but I can always dream lol
     
  4. Huffydavidson

    Huffydavidson STREETRACER/MANUFACTURER

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    Dreams will be dreams. But nothing stands in my way. I had no money, no job so I started a business to get the money to buy the welder at HF and the Welding Tech School, well that was Free it call U-Tube.
    Real men let nothing stop them from makiing their dream a reality!!
     
  5. KCvale

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    I guess I am one of the few people in the United States that actually appreciates some of the state and federal agencies that help protect us from our greed and stupidity.

    Mankind as a whole cares not what the long term ramifications of a present need or desire creates as we as creatures with a fairly short life span just don't care happens after we die.

    I care about today and I care about or planet for far longer than my little time on it for my kid and his kids and their kids and so on.

    Clean water, safe food, and of course clean air.

    Trade tariffs and such aside, the Environmental Protection Agency is what most of us little 2-stroke engine buyers worry about and for good reason, the basic engine design is extremely inefficient at fossil fuel use and trying to make them compliant with arbitrary emissions limits seems like a really bad thing, but is it?

    I left Phoenix, AZ in the mid 80's to take a job in the Los Angeles, CA metro area but lived out in the San Fernando Valley for a year and a half commuting downtown and the air was so bad my eyes hurt, my lungs hurt, etc and now look at you California, clean air.

    Did you know that the 2-stroke engines made in Chine are not even legal there?
    Why? Well if you ever see the news the major cities in China have such bad air from such cheap fossil fuel burning you have to walk around with a mask, and on some days wear eye protection and tote an oxygen bottle!

    2-stroke engines can be made more efficient, heck the right carb, ignition and exhaust can make them very efficient but in the big picture we call 'em smokers for a reason.

    Pollution rules saved California and I have watched with keen interest how industry has improved everything from lawn mowers and weed whippers to cars, to diesel big rigs, trains, and even big ships and I can literally breath easier and swallow down the extra cost with clean water and feel better that humans as a whole are finally starting to understand that killing our environment is not in our best interest, especially when it's the 2 most important things that let us even live which is what the EPA's main job is.

    China engine factories took a big hit this year when nothing 2-stroke is now allowed in the US as an engine this year and maybe that is not such a bad thing, there simply must be designs for a cheap rotational power source that will accommodate our desire meager power needs to help a bicycle along and I look forward to it.

    Hypocrite Alert:
    I did my part only buying current year EPA certified SKyhawk 2-stroke kits the last 3 years (like 70 of them for builds) but when they didn't get 2013 EPA and 2012 prices doubled I bought half a dozen of the 'parts in a box' kits with no EPA approved stuff in them.

    Like most everyone else I guess I too put my immediate livelihood ability to eat above above the bigger picture but again that is human nature.

    Stock up on what is available today?

    What can I say I haven't in this long post but I still have 3 kits and if they go away that's OK, the 4-strokes and electrics may cost more but they work great.
     
  6. mr42ndstblvd

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    they will never outlaw 2 stroke kits america makes to much money taxing the imports on it anytime a kit is airmailed or comes on the boat it has been taxed by are goverment to the seller so they can ship them across to us the taxes alone will keep us importing these kits for years to come if they banned these kits they would have to ban a million other things that run on 2 stroke and i dont see them banning weed whackers or chainsaws anytime soon. im all in favor of cleaner air and not making alot of nasty waste but in the end when it comes to it im still gunna hope on my bike and ride it to work everyday because i have to make money so i can eat. and in all reality tree's and other plants and even clouds absorb alot of the pollution we put out if they did not dont you think most of are air would be toxic by now? we have been running these gas cars bikes motorcycles for over 140 years if there wasnt something sucking up that bad pollution and putting out fresh air we would have already ran out of good air if you feel worried about pollution go plant a nice garden and buy up some land and plant some fresh tree's balance the equation its all you can do
     
  7. mapbike

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    Ditto......................
     

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