Does anyone reconize this engine

[Russell]

This 2 cycle engine was given to me. Has a 5/8 x 1" output shaft with no keyway. It had a small fuel tank attached. What mfg? What HP? Who made it? What was it used on? Has a tillotson carb,

 

[Ludwig II]

It looks tiny. Have you compared it to an Ohlsson and Rice?

 

[cannonball2]

Maybe an old West Bend?

 

[Ludwig II]

I found a Power Products with a similar fan shroud.

http://oldpathsequipment.com/2013/11/sold-power-products-ah47/

 

[curtisfox]

Looks like a Jacobson maybe 2hp they also made 3hp I have one of each.

RickRides would know if you get a hold of him..................Curt

 

[Ludwig II]

I'm looking at that asymmetric fan shroud in aluminium, and the PP is the nearest I can find. I suppose you could always hunt around vintage mower forums.

 

[curtisfox]

You may be right Lud as i am no expert just thought the head looked more Jacobson. There were a lot of engines made back then Clinton, West bend,and who know what else.
RickRides identified mine ...........Curt

 

[Ludwig II]

What we need here is a Neck Spert, we could be baffled for the next 10 years on our own.

 

[Ludwig II]

I have spoken to the wider world. You never know, somebody could have 2 of the things and know all about them.

 

[Russell]

Thank you for the input. I am pretty familiar with the old power products / tecumseh engines, close but no cigar! I'll look into the west bend & clinton engines. I think is a little larger than it appears. I'm hoping it is about 2hp as I'm building a bike around it(LOL).
THx Again

I found a Power Products with a similar fan shroud.

http://oldpathsequipment.com/2013/11/sold-power-products-ah47/

 

[Russell]

I will look into jacobson, west bend & clinton.
I have feeling it was on an old chainsaw(despite it's size) or perhaps a pump. Due to the short output shaft. Looks like I will have to machine a keyway to attach a sprocket.

Thx: Jim E(Russell)

Looks like a Jacobson maybe 2hp they also made 3hp I have one of each.

RickRides would know if you get a hold of him..................Curt

 

[Ludwig II]

Some of the difficulty in pinning it down is there were so many American companies making engines in the 50s and 60s. The quality of that metal looks 1950s for a start. The crankcase reed, belatedly taken up on motorcycles years later, goes back to the 50s as well. It's certainly a beefy unit, is it about 80 - 100cc?

There are a couple of people now on Farcebook trawling sites to see if they can find it. I looked at Elgin, O&R, Johnson and more, with no luck. What's the name on the air filter? Is it a dealer name, or just a manufacturer?

 

[Ludwig II]

This is the closest I can get, AH36 Power Products.

http://www.4btswaps.com/forum/showt...ainsaw-amp-Other-Small-2-Stroke-Engine-Thread

 

[maniac57]

My first impression was the powerhead off an old outboard boat motor....

 

[cannonball2]

Don't believe its a West Bend. I looked them up last night and though very similar the recoil housing appeared to be steel in most if the pics.

 

[Ludwig II]

Ooo!

http://player.mashpedia.com/player.php?q=FmX0_9MdIEA

 

[cannonball2]

Pretty cool. I found a similar unit by a different manufacturer at a yard sale a few months back. Used a later US 820. Was used originally by the Ga. DNR in sensitive areas where thy did not want to disturb the environment/water with an outboard. I didn't venture the $200 price to see how well it worked.

 

[Ludwig II]

This is interesting.

http://jleibovitch.tripod.com/id273.htm

 

[curtisfox]

What bugs me is it sure looks like Power products engine,but the Power Products has kind of flat head and Russell's has a domed head with rounded fins.............Curt

 

[Ludwig II]

It might depend on the age and the model. The Dragonfly is in the right shade of red, if we could rely on the colour of it being a sound indicator.

As it's cleaned off, it might reveal a serial number, and that should tie it down to model, year and probable original use.