make your own race fuel and cheap !! 100 octaine...

[rogergendron1]

make your own race fuel cheap!

if your into racing or just want a sweet fully modded motor then your like most of us and run some kind of high comp head, if your realy into it and want the absoloute most you can get then your like me and are running 13:1 comp !!!! and regular 93 octaine will not cut it !!!! you may get away with it for a wile but rest assure your damaging your motor !!!

13:1 comp needs 100octaine to run its best, 13:1 comp motor can have a dynamic comp of almost 14:1 when running in the power band with a properly tunned exhaust ! even 12:1 comp with a good tunned exhaust and large ports can push 13:1 dynamic comp !

now most of us dont have acsess to race fuel and almost all octaine boosters on the market are a freakin joke ! it says they raise octaine by 8 points ! wow you went from 93 oct to 93.8 oct woop di doo !!! you wasted 6 bucks LOL
i know that at 13:1 comp i can barley get away with 93 octane ! i get detonation and high rpm backfires and misses. the spark advances too far for the 93 octane rating at high rpms with that comp ratio, i will only run 93 if i am going to the store ... slowly ...to get some race fuel or diy octane booster and cylinder lube and oil !!!

this is what you do

1 go get 3 gallons of 93 octain gas

2 go to hardware or paint store and get a 1 gallon can of xylene or toluene... those 2 chemicals have been used as fuels in drag racing for decades and they are the most common ingreediants in regular pump gas and even in off the shelf octaine booster !!!!

xylene is 117 octaine and toluene is 114 octaine

3 now mix it with your 93 octaine to the desired ratio, but do not use more than 30% here is the ratio to mix it...

Xylene
R+M/2...117
Mixtures with 93 Octane Premium
10%...95.4 Octane
20%...97.8 Octane
30%...100.2 Octane

mix the gallon of xylene with the 3 gallons of 93 octaine, you now have 100.2 octane gas !

4 mix the entire 4 gallons of 100 oct race gas with 13oz of good synthetic 2 stroke oil, you now have 4 gallons of 40:1 mixed 100.2 octane

5 now mix in 2.5 to 3 oz of lucas oil upper cylinder lube to make 4 gallons of 32:1 to 35:1 100.2 octane race fuel !!!

people have used mixes just like this in super high comp karts for years at the track. i have personaly seen people mix it at ratios of 1:1 or 50/50 or even more yealding near 110 octane !

some drag cars run on 85% xylene !!!

so for those of you who would like to run a high comp head and a decked down jug for 12:1 or 13:1 comp with a 6cc or 5cc head but cant find the fuel in your nieborhood... try this out !!!! it works !

i personaly run this myself and have no problems at all ! my motor actually cleaned up its throttle responce and reve's out higher and quicker with no sign of detonation ! my piston is clean and i never over heat ! plug chops are all good and at 40 to1 with upper cylinder lube mixed 32 to 1 i know i have proper lubrication even at super high rpms ! i hit 30-35 mph regularly and maintain that speed for extended times with a 26in tire and a 44 tooth rear ! thats 7,500 to 8,000 rpms ! and my motor is just dandy with it !

 

[rogergendron1]

people ask me ..... does that run on regular gas ??? LOL

i tell them no it runs on 93octane with a 30% mix of xylene at a ratio of 40 to 1 mixed with sythetic 2 stroke oil ... then i mix that with an upper cylinder lubricant to get a final ratio of 100 octane mixed 32 to 1.......

they just stare back with a blank face......LOL

or i get "wow man it must be fast !" to that i say "nahh man it only goes 35 to 40 max but its geared for power !"

 

[rogergendron1]

some other formula's with 92 octane...

Toulene
are+M/2...114
Cost...$4.50/gal
Mixtures with 92 Octane Premium
10%...94.2 Octane
20%...96.4 Octane
30%...98.6 Octane
Notes: Common ingredient in Octane Boosters in a can. 12-16 ounces will only raise octane 2-3 *points*, I.e. from 92 to 92.3. Often costs $3-5 for 12-16 ounces, when it can be purchased for less than $5/gal at chemical supply houses or paint stores.


FORMULA 2
Xylene
are+M/2...117
Cost...$2.75/gal
Mixtures with 92 Octane Premium
10%...94.5 Octane
20%...97.0 Octane
30%...99.5 Octane
Notes: Similar to Toulene. 12-16 ounces will only raise octane 2-3 *points*, I.e. from 92 to 92.3. Usually mixed with Toulene and advertised as *race formula*.


instead of upper cylinder lube you can use marvel mystery oil

 

[a.graham52]

Interesting

 

[rogergendron1]

you can make a gallon of 100 octane at 32 to 1 mix for around 5$

.66 gallon of 93 about 3$
.33 gal of xylene or toulene 1$
2.6oz 2 stroke oil 1$ if bought in bulk
.5oz upper cylinder lube .50 cents

tottal cost = $5.50 for a gallon of 100.2 octane mixed 32 to 1 with synthetic oil and cylinder lube !!!!!

last time i saw, VP and sunoco sold 100 octane for about 10$ a gallon !!! and thats not including the cost of oil and lubricants our 2 strokes require !!!!

 

[bairdco]

both toulene and xylene are highly toxic substances that can be absorbed through the skin, and can be deadly if inhaled or injested. and they're both extremely flammable.

if you're gonna try to make your own race gas with this method, use caution.

 

[culvercityclassic]

both toulene and xylene are highly toxic substances that can be absorbed through the skin, and can be deadly if inhaled or injested. and they're both extremely flammable.

if you're gonna try to make your own race gas with this method, use caution.

That's why I am happy with my VP gas.....

 

[MotorBicycleRacing]

Willow Springs has gas pumps with race fuel for $9 gallon.

 

[rogergendron1]

both toulene and xylene are highly toxic substances that can be absorbed through the skin, and can be deadly if inhaled or injested. and they're both extremely flammable.

if you're gonna try to make your own race gas with this method, use caution.

yes they are ..... and they are in your gas already !!!! LOL they are also the main componants of most off the shelf octain boosters LOL dont get that on you ether !!!

you have to use caution when working with any chem.....


ohh by the way my MOS in the army is 74Delta........ chemical operations specialist ..... i know what i am doing, and how to handle any chem, even VX and G series nerve agent....

i do not recomend this for any beginer as the chems are dangerous if miss handled but for those with propper PPE and breathers like a NIOSH approved P100 filter or similar yes you can make this yourself quite easy. (an organic vapor filter) or an OG/AG filter is best ... lowes has them for 20$


just make shure to mix in large stainless steel pots and pyrex glass ware then transfer to an approved gas can for safe storage., ohh and do it outside people LOL you dont do this in your basement and go upstairs to find your family passed out cold from inhalation !!!!

 

[rogergendron1]

if you want i can make a video of how to do this and even demonstrate proper PPE and saftey ! i am fully qualified to do so !!!

 

[rogergendron1]

this is what you need to get it done and be safe wile doing it ... to me its easy as i have acsess to millitary grade chemical gear and even own my own MOPP suit LVL4 LOL

but here you go..... the mixing can be done in big stainless steel or aluminum cooking pots and and you can use oven ready glass ware too.. for protective equipment see the pics below....

aside from the 93oct and the 2 stroke oil and the upper cylinder lube, this is what i use to make the 100oct race fuel, it has worked for me perfectly at slightly over 13:1 comp and it only comes to around 5$ a gallon so your saving 4$ a gallon if you DIY !!!!

 

[rogergendron1]

what i do is layer the inner filter of the 2 gal pot with paper towels and hold it half way up in the pot then i pour the .66 gal of 93 octane through the paper towels to filter any particulats out ! this is an important step as some gas is full of crap !!! you would not believe how much gunk is in your gas and how mutch gets stuck to the paper towel filter !!!!

then after filtration of the gas pull the inner filter/ strainer out and set it aside and your left with .66 galons of pure filtered 93 oct with no particulats or water in it !!! now you can add you .33 gal of xylene or toluene and mix carfully till its all agitated together

next add your 2 stroke oil to get a little above your desired mix ratio, i like 32 to 1 so i mix it 40 to 1 to save some room for the lubricants i want to add

now add in the upper cylinder lube if desired to the mix to get your final ratio... for me i add in enough to bring it from 40:1 to 32:1


now you have a 2 gallon bucket, with 1 gallon of 100.2 oct mixed 32:1 in it.....
use the petcock to drian off what you need into an approved gas can to fill your bike. then go back and drain off the rest into the approved gas can for storage .... now clean your eqipment out with a hose and some dish soap (so it doesnt continue to emit fumes) and store it where you like for the next batch.

remember to keep your organic vapor approved breather/resperator on during this prosses ! and use glove guys ! eye where is a good thought too ... come on this stuff is common sence to me....

the cool thing is that the government allows for like a up to a 40% mix of external chemicals in our gas, anything over that and its not considered gas LOL so as long as you keep your mix around 30% you end up with 100 octane and by the regulation it is still gas !!!!

 

[rogergendron1]

some times i spluge and buy 3 bottles of ethanol free 95 octane premix 50 to 1 and use that to make the final race fuel !!! that mix is super expencive and should only be made when going to the track to race !!! it comes out to around 105 oct pure ethanol free fuel !!

this is 95 oct 50:1 full synthetic and ethanol free, if used as a base it make a great fuel for the track !!!

you end up with about 105 oct clean fuel at 50:1 then add your upper cylinder lube to get 40:1 or 32:1 and you have some srsly great gas for the race track !!!

 

[rogergendron1]

remember this formula is open LOL you can use castor oil and no cylinder lube or bolth or whatever you want to experiment with !!! its up to you !!!!

heck people even add transmition oil or even marvel mystery oil !!!


just as long as the final ratio is the octane rating your aiming for and the mix ratio your bike is tunned for !!!



a lot of people will NOT be willing to do this just for a bike with a real high comp, but i do this for a living in the army, handle chemicals and prepare for a chem/bio/radiological/nuk dissaster.... its something to do with my time lol

heck i am even part of the MASS CERF-P emergancy responce force for the HRF..... i work with fema all the time durring trainning exersizes.


hey if i have the equipment and the know how..... then why not make my own race gas for $5 right at home ? it beats driving for miles and miles to pay $9 at the pump !

 

[bairdco]

glad you went over all the precautions. it's not something to take on half-assed.

when i worked in a tire shop we used toulene to clean the inside of tires before you patched the. i stuck a toulene covered rag in my pocket without thinking one time and had a rash on my inner thigh that would scare the most seasoned planned parenthood nurse...

 

[rogergendron1]

remember... never add more than around 30% xylene or toluene

once you pass that 30% marker it effects the burn speed of the fuel and slows it down due to a chemical process i am not going to explain here lol, unless your willing to alter you squish band and spark timing ... then do not add more than 30% or the burn speed will start to change and require you to alter your combustion chamber and timeing !!!

30% and under though has no ill effects on burn speed of the fuel

 

[rogergendron1]

glad you went over all the precautions. it's not something to take on half-assed.

when i worked in a tire shop we used toulene to clean the inside of tires before you patched the. i stuck a toulene covered rag in my pocket without thinking one time and had a rash on my inner thigh that would scare the most seasoned planned parenthood nurse...

good god man !!! after graduating from chem school and the department of defence chemical warfare training center..... i never want another chemical to contact my skin again ! i dont even like getting bug spray on my skin !!! ( did you know all insect repellants are G SERIES NERVE AGENTS !!!!!)

man i even read deoderant lables to make shure there is no funky stuff in it and i stopped wearing perfume !!!

there are certain things that once you know..... you can never unknow !!!! lol
i no longer allow my fiance to put on make up ! only on special occasions ! when i told her what some of the chems in her make up was and what they are used for in industrial settings ... she agreed

we are being poisoned slowly by our food our water and all the products we apply to our bodys, and people have no clue ! they dont even read the lables, and when hey do and they find a long chemical name they dont understand they assume its safe! it must be safe right ? or why would it be there ????? i study chemicals and there effects on people for the army as my job ! let me tell you about the crap they say is safe, and all the chems they dump in our water and food !!!! dead srs you wouldnt believe the half of it !!!

how would you like to go around in life knowing that the main componant of jet air plane deicer and certain anti freezes is in almost all the food flavorings on the market ? i could go on and on ....

 

[rogergendron1]

yeh toulene xylen and even gasoline are all NO JOKE !!!!


just splash a little on the toughest plant in your garden and watch how fast it dies and never comes back !!!!

it can alter your mind and mess you up if inhaled !!! any one who wishes to do this plz use an organic vapor resperator... (OV) they cost 20$ at lowes !


use your own descresion ... if you dont feel comfie about chemicals then DONT DO IT !!!

if your used to working with stuff like this, like in the painting industry or machine shop field or other places than it easy work


ok i made it sound scary LOL LOL LOL but its actually VERY EASY !!!

 

[Nevada]

We've got a VP gas station in town. They've got 95 & 100 octane at the pumps and carry up to 113. Just bring your gas safe can, pay your money and you've got instant horsepower.

Great info on the home recipe for high octane. I'll stick to the simple, although a bit more expensive option. Ran the 100 in my Harley one time. Noticeable power gain but check engine light stayed on till I went back to plain 91 Chevron. She didn't like it for some reason.

 

[Nevada]

I wonder if anyone has ever tried running RC fuel in a china girl. Already mixed and ready for use in a 2 stroke. My gas RC truck and plane running on 30% nitro fuel both made over 1 hp with less than 8cc of engine displacement. A China girl would disintegrate at the RPM's an RC engine turns, might be fun though.

 

[rogergendron1]

We've got a VP gas station in town. They've got 95 & 100 octane at the pumps and carry up to 113. Just bring your gas safe can, pay your money and you've got instant horsepower.

Great info on the home recipe for high octane. I'll stick to the simple, although a bit more expensive option. Ran the 100 in my Harley one time. Noticeable power gain but check engine light stayed on till I went back to plain 91 Chevron. She didn't like it for some reason.

she dint like it because the motors sencors detected various increeses in tempature and preasure and probably tried to advance or retard the timing to compancate ( they program the motor to run on a spacific fuel if you use a way higher octaine it will try to over compancate to maintain the same spark timeing and produce a knock) and read it as a problem... if you had say a 89 1200cc sporster with a set of high comp heads and a tall cam you would have noticed an improvement !

now that bing said you could have brought it to an engine tunner and gave your PCM a preformance tune and told your computer the new spark timing and cam timing peramiters to run with the 100 octane fuel and you would have gained power with no CEL...