What's an ASA?
Also, Looked in Lakeland and Polk County and found nothing stating a Moped didn't need a license, so I would suggest you get one, (again, So you don't get into trouble)
Is a License required in Florida
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Also, Looked in Lakeland and Polk County and found nothing stating a Moped didn't need a license, so I would suggest you get one, (again, So you don't get into trouble)
Unless you live in Daytona, Florida (Which classifies a Moped as a bicycle) you need a DL to ride one on the roads, pretty much anywhere in Florida.....
Here is the Daytona Code that supports it(for Daytona SPECIFICALLY)....
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hello everyone, i have been working at this for a long time now. i now have a document from the tag and title office specifically stating that regardless of what gas engine kit is mounted to the bicycle; that it is still considered a bicycle. i am now in the process of presenting this to my local Senators office for review to get the definition of a bicycle in florida statue 316.003 to include the gas powered engine kit. here is the website to the information. simply go to the very bottom of the last page and it is there for everyone to read in black and white of what the DMV in Florida thinks about the motorized bicycles. knowledge is power, spread the power and help get this changed. http://www3.flhsmv.gov/DMV/Proc/TL/TL-10.PDF as you will see this is a recent judgement made on March 16, 2010. have a good day
Well let's see, if you have a family member who is one of the highest ranking member of the legal system, you can pretty much get away with just about anything non-criminal... LOL
Of course, you won't have a problem...
FYI, Of COURSE, I want a Gas Powered (low speed) BICYCLE to be thought of as a Bicycle. However, the current law does not distinguish, between a Gas Powered bicycle and a Moped.
(Given the current description in the Florida Statutes.)
Now, given the Quote below by the PDF mentioned..
You will notice the Scenario part mentions GAS, the "Q." part asks about REGISTRATION....
HOWEVER the ANSWER gives you the Floridian Statute 316.003(2) and THAT is about ELECTRIC bikes and the ANSWER ALSO states that you can NOT register it, which has NOTHING to do with Licensing of a gas powered bicycle (moped)
Now here comes the "tricky" part....
If you can't REGISTER it for use on the Road, TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, you are NOT allowed to RIDE it on the road as a MOTOR Vehicle. Now a GAS bike IS (by Definition) a MOPED and TECHNICALLY a MOTOR Vehicle, when it comes to LICENSING, So technically it's not approved for road use.
Just joined my name is Quinn and have a 48cc beach bike can i ride this or should i keep bail money at home and a attorny on call to place bail
I guess it depends on where you live.I have been riding mine for 2 years without a problem.I have only heard of one person from FL. thats had a problem.Read through the whole thread and decide for yourself.I say ride like a "normal" person, follow the rules of the road you should be fine.
Where do you live?
How are the officers in your town?
Do you have a license?
You probably could get away with it..
However, if you get snagged and have no license, and you have an officer who is knowledgable about the laws or just plain mean, not only will you get a ticket for driving an unregistered vehicle but also a driving while suspended charge.
Give us a little more detail.
That's like saying, I own a gun, will I get in trouble?
As with anything else, depends on your situation and what's legal where you live.
i would like to know if anyone has tried to register a motor assisted bike in the state of Minnesota ?
Florida = 50cc/2hp/30mph/any license/no helmet/peddals required/*register at county tax collector office and get plates*
* You cannot register a bicycle with added motor**go buy a cheap moped that has vin # and title or something*
Minnesota - 50cc/2HP/30mph/any license/register/plates/headlight on when running/stop+taillights/goggles/horn/mirror/im not sure if you can register a bicycle with motor.
* You cannot register a bicycle with added motor**go buy a cheap moped that has vin # and title or something*
Minnesota - 50cc/2HP/30mph/any license/register/plates/headlight on when running/stop+taillights/goggles/horn/mirror/im not sure if you can register a bicycle with motor.
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No they won't. They need a VIN to register it as a Moped and no bicycles have VINs.\
It's the same reason you can't get a LoJack for you bicycle or Insure it with any Insurance company either (other than home owner's insurance for theft while AT home).... No VIN. = NOT registerable with DMV.
Been doin' some research as well...INSONMIA!!! 
Seek and Ye Shall Find...
The answer is in your fortune cookie.
I do want to guide you (not take you) to where the water is, but I can't make you drink it.
Review MB Forum(s) on same topic, same state, and you should find out the answer.
Take the red pill or the blue pill....Neo
Sorry for beating around the bush - I too am searching.
For those who have SUCCESSFUL FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE at your local tax collectors office with paperwork, (registration and tag), P L E A S E share it with us, (again for further clarification) - what exactly did you do to make your gas motorized bike legal be driven on public roads?
now sangesf, it may not be the answer that you want to hear, (as from what I previously read you do not have a drivers license?) buuut I do believe you can get a tag and registration for a gas motorized bicycle - which by definition is now considered a moped.
I look forward to some positive posts.
Happy and Safe motorized bicycle riding!
Seek and Ye Shall Find...
The answer is in your fortune cookie.
I do want to guide you (not take you) to where the water is, but I can't make you drink it.
Review MB Forum(s) on same topic, same state, and you should find out the answer.
Take the red pill or the blue pill....Neo
Sorry for beating around the bush - I too am searching.
For those who have SUCCESSFUL FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE at your local tax collectors office with paperwork, (registration and tag), P L E A S E share it with us, (again for further clarification) - what exactly did you do to make your gas motorized bike legal be driven on public roads?
now sangesf, it may not be the answer that you want to hear, (as from what I previously read you do not have a drivers license?) buuut I do believe you can get a tag and registration for a gas motorized bicycle - which by definition is now considered a moped.
I look forward to some positive posts.
Happy and Safe motorized bicycle riding!
Not a problem.
The answer is this...
About a year and a half ago, I think it was TWO people that were able to get their bikes registered.
However, since that happened, the paperwork went to Talahasee, the people there, noted that they were bicycles, and did not have the correct saftey equipment that a normal moped would have.
So, they put out a note to all DMVs that bicycles with gas motors, can NOT be registered without a VIN.
You MIGHT be lucky to be able to do it, but that's a small chance. In the excerpt from that PDF, concerning Bicycles with Gas Motors, it states right there, that they are not allowed to give registrations to bicycles with gas engines on them, for the reasons mentioned there.
Also, I've found, that most, if not all, counties, do not have the software anymore that allows them to even register bicycles for theft.
Although some MUNICIPALITIES themselves may have it. (i.e. Tampa) for bicycle registration. (You might be able to get a small license plate from those towns, and THEN add the gas motor to the bicycle, however that doesn't make it legal, in terms of DMV registration.)
And as for MY situation, I have my electric bicycle, that does 20mph (it's govenered by a CYCLE ANALYST) for 80miles on a single charge, which takes me 3 hours from low voltage cutoff to full charge.
So i'm good
IF i wanted to "push it", I could only go 16mph and make a full trip of 117miles (And yes, i have tested this, by riding down to Miami and back to West Palm Beach
The answer is this...
About a year and a half ago, I think it was TWO people that were able to get their bikes registered.
However, since that happened, the paperwork went to Talahasee, the people there, noted that they were bicycles, and did not have the correct saftey equipment that a normal moped would have.
So, they put out a note to all DMVs that bicycles with gas motors, can NOT be registered without a VIN.
You MIGHT be lucky to be able to do it, but that's a small chance. In the excerpt from that PDF, concerning Bicycles with Gas Motors, it states right there, that they are not allowed to give registrations to bicycles with gas engines on them, for the reasons mentioned there.
Also, I've found, that most, if not all, counties, do not have the software anymore that allows them to even register bicycles for theft.
Although some MUNICIPALITIES themselves may have it. (i.e. Tampa) for bicycle registration. (You might be able to get a small license plate from those towns, and THEN add the gas motor to the bicycle, however that doesn't make it legal, in terms of DMV registration.)
And as for MY situation, I have my electric bicycle, that does 20mph (it's govenered by a CYCLE ANALYST) for 80miles on a single charge, which takes me 3 hours from low voltage cutoff to full charge.
So i'm good
IF i wanted to "push it", I could only go 16mph and make a full trip of 117miles (And yes, i have tested this, by riding down to Miami and back to West Palm Beach
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sangesf?
no tag for "reasons mentioned" - where is that?
can you post this?
what is the correct equipment that a normal moped would have?
im glad you are ok though...
no tag for "reasons mentioned" - where is that?
can you post this?
what is the correct equipment that a normal moped would have?
im glad you are ok though...
This was posted earlier in this thread...
http://www3.flhsmv.gov/DMV/Proc/TL/TL-10.PDF
the exerpt is this...
Since by Definition a Gas bicycle is a Moped and you can't register it as such, you aren't really allowed to ride an unregistered vehicle in the State of Florida.
If you do, you will get cited for riding an unregistered vehicle.
it's a catch 22...
You can't register it as a Moped, but by definition it is one.
Then you have the conflict between The DL issues and State Codes... One says a Moped is a motor Vehicle, the other says it's not.
Read through this entire thread to get all the details...
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Companies always sell stuff thats not legal to use in many places,its all about the money, they don't care if you can use it or not.
sangesf,
sigh... i replied back on a similar thread, and based on what was posted, i unfortunately would have to agree with you.
so the earlier MB'ers kawsaki999 and coconut got lucky, but they lost the tag?
for real, i thought a did a lot of research, and everything was positive.
a. i can post some of my email responses from the powers that be a sheriffs office, and a tag office, but that is a moot point.
b. in addition to phone conversation info with fl dept of hwy and safety, DMV regional? saying its NOT ILLEGAL to ride, but cant tag. another sheriffs office saying you can tag, dmv saying you can tag but would need all the safety stuff on the gas powered bicycle, again maybe a moot point.
is there a way to combine all florida tag threads? or maybe florida main thread, and rest sub threads?
The only glimmer of hope is to:
a. get a local Ch of Police emailed opinion with all requirements.
b. get dmv opinion emailed or....
c. RIDE, Baby, RIDE!!!
--->They see me rollin They hatin' Patrolling they tryin to
catch me ridin dirty
sigh... i replied back on a similar thread, and based on what was posted, i unfortunately would have to agree with you.
so the earlier MB'ers kawsaki999 and coconut got lucky, but they lost the tag?
for real, i thought a did a lot of research, and everything was positive.
a. i can post some of my email responses from the powers that be a sheriffs office, and a tag office, but that is a moot point.
b. in addition to phone conversation info with fl dept of hwy and safety, DMV regional? saying its NOT ILLEGAL to ride, but cant tag. another sheriffs office saying you can tag, dmv saying you can tag but would need all the safety stuff on the gas powered bicycle, again maybe a moot point.
is there a way to combine all florida tag threads? or maybe florida main thread, and rest sub threads?
The only glimmer of hope is to:
a. get a local Ch of Police emailed opinion with all requirements.
b. get dmv opinion emailed or....
c. RIDE, Baby, RIDE!!!
--->They see me rollin They hatin' Patrolling they tryin to
catch me ridin dirty
99% sure that if you have a small gas engine on a bicycle and have a DL, you will not have a problem..
88% sure that if you have a small gas engine on a bicycle and Don't have a DL, you will not have a problem..
100% sure that I keep my bicycle electric and not need a DL or ever worry about, tags, reg, or anything else.
88% sure that if you have a small gas engine on a bicycle and Don't have a DL, you will not have a problem..
100% sure that I keep my bicycle electric and not need a DL or ever worry about, tags, reg, or anything else.