to misteright from johnmartinwright have just bought the chain tensioner from tractor supply and following your example will have to go to hardware shop to get the allthred 3/8 rod this looks like a very very good setup and anticipating a good ride from my bike without the worry and troubles of having the chain to come off with me miles away from home LOL thank you for the idea and leading me to look for a much better chain tensioner looking forward to a great ride THX very much JOHNMARTINWRIGHT