sorry scotto. I appreciate your help as much as anyone else's. thank you. sorry if I ignored any of your advice. I pretty much got the same advice from you as I did from wayne. I am going to install the predator and a transmission that will give me a final drive of 11.41:1. duane from dax tells me his kits can suit my needs just as well as a predator, but im not too sure about that. I really need a good balance between speed and climb. 30mph+ with an ability to climb any hill without pedaling. anyone think a kit engine can give me that on a cruiser? so far I am going for the predator.